Deca Winny Only Stack

[Dangerdan]

Yes, I know, everyones gonna say you gotta use test. But lets say that I'm not gonna use test. I really dont want to put on much more weight, just harden up a bit.

I'm about 6'1, 200 lbs and about 12-15 percent body fat. I've been lifting for years and have done one previous cycle of only deca (two years ago).

I was thinking about taking 400mg deca weekly and 75-100mg winny every other day for about six weeks. I was also planning on taking nova for the last three weeks of the cycle and for three weeks afterwards. I know I probably dont need the nova, but I really dont want gyno.

I'm definatly a beginner user and would appreciate any advice.

[topvega]

You don't want to put on much weight and u want to use deca to harden u up????


Put the steroids down and start researching.....

[kloter1]

Well being a beginner and assuming your wanting to keep your gains once youre off you need test to do so. if your set on not using any well im not sure what to tell you, many ppl have used those as ONLY cycles. im not sure how well it worked out though.

[QuieTSToRM33]

the best advice i can give u is to stick around and read up man

deca for 6 weeks isnt a bright idea
winny needs to be taken ED
TEST TEST TEST
do a search on PCT .... read up on that as well

those are just some of the things that are wrong with ur "cycle"

like i said ..... do as much reading as u can ... this board has plenty of information ... educate urself b4 u even think about using AAS

[Slowhand]

do research... i've put in over a year of research so far and am just about to start my first cycle in a few weeks

[Dangerdan]

Like I said; I'm a beginner and I'm here for advice so I appreciate the responses.

An amature working on getting his pro card, suggested this as a good first cycle (he is also the one trying to sell it to me). I also have read that deca stacks well with winny (although not on these forums).

In response to Topvega, I realize that I'm going to retain water with deca, but I was under the impression that it could be used with winny for lean mass.

Would I be better off using substituting test for the deca?

[topvega]

Winny needs to be run ed... Test prop and winny now that wld be a winner..... I wld never include deca in any lean mass cycle of mine... not when there are so many better options for lean mass steroids.... Like my best friend tren-a... but he is not a beginer steroid.... If u cld handle ed injections prop/winny wld be good... but ed injections are a bitch and u will need to be skilled at injecting into many different muscles...

[Dangerdan]

Yeah, I was a little concerned about rotating injection sites with taking the winny everyday. Can you build any lean mass with just the winny or would it be a waste to use it without test/prop?

[Bigmax]

is this your first cycle bro????the guys are right .....Do some more research.That amateur thats looking for his pro card might not be giving you the best advise ...especially if he's looking to sell it to you.

[Bigmax]

Bro your first cycle should be one compound....and we recommend test....preferably testE.

[topvega]

if he is an amateur looking for his pro card then he shld be able to get u test e ot test c.... that's your best bet.... u can inject evry 3.5 days....

[Dangerdan]

I'm sure he can get it, I just wonder why he suggested the deca/winny?

[topvega]

Yeah, I was a little concerned about rotating injection sites with taking the winny everyday. Can you build any lean mass with just the winny or would it be a waste to use it without test/prop?

Oh and lesson number one.... U can drink the winny... u don't have to inject it....

[Dangerdan]

good one

[Dangerdan]

Edit: Double Post

[Bigmax]

Ok then go and tell him what we said about the cycle he recommended and tell him if he has any questions to feel free and come on here so we can tell him.....judging by his advise to you he may learn something himself.

[topvega]

good one

I wld never inject something I cld just take orally... i don't like needles that much...........................

[Dangerdan]

I'll talk to him about maybe test-c. I dont think BD is producing test-e anymore.

[Dangerdan]

So is there any use in just running the winny by itself?