doggcrapp and clen....mmmmmm

[hardgainer12]

im currently killing myself w doggcrapp. im eatin around 3400 cals and 400 grams of protein. would it be beneficial to run clen at all? just to keep excess fat off? im doing a brisk walk in the morning b4 breakfast on teusday and thursday to keep my BF in control.

[C_Bino]

What do you mean doggcrap?
I dont know what you are trying to ask here.

[guest589745]

Doggcrapp training.

Guys name is dante, he "invented" "doggcrapp" training.

[guest589745]

Just depends on yer goals bro. Its up to you, you know what clen does? Then make your choice.

[C_Bino]

Oh I see, I have never followed any particular training style I guess thats why Im lost. I just train to cause muscular hypertrophy and then feed my muscles with exceptional nutrition. I will call this Bino training.

[guest589745]

Oh I see, I have never followed any particular training style I guess thats why Im lost. I just train to cause muscular hypertrophy and then feed my muscles with exceptional nutrition.

Wowo, I never thought of that..........Imagine the possibilities..................

[C_Bino]

I must admit its a little bt wacky but it can work.

[hardgainer12]

sorry for the confusing question. basically if i am taking clen is there a chance of putting on muscle at all? would it benefit me if im eating 3500 cals?

ive taken clen b4 w good results but i was cutting

[fLgAtOr]

sorry for the confusing question. basically if i am taking clen is there a chance of putting on muscle at all? would it benefit me if im eating 3500 cals?

ive taken clen b4 w good results but i was cutting

I don't think it would be a prob. But I would rather just clean the diet up a little and not worry about taking more compunds...'cha know?

[hardgainer12]

ya its a clean diet but of course im taking in more cals than normal and i just dont want to put on excess fat

[fLgAtOr]

I wouldn't bother. Maybe another walk or two during the week.

I'd say I can't hurt you...But then again, it IS clen.

[guest589745]

ya its a clean diet but of course im taking in more cals than normal and i just dont want to put on excess fat

Bump the cals up incrementally and constantly check BF% BINGO.

Keep up on cardio. It is very hard to enter a catabolic state when "on".

[*Narkissos*]

add more cardio... bulking shouldn't = fat.

Cardio isn't catabolic.. undereating is.

Thus if you're eating above maintenance you should be fine.

Cardio makes ones body more efficient at dealing with food.. so in the debate clen vs more cardio.. clen loses.

Nark

[PlasticFuture112]

Oh I see, I have never followed any particular training style I guess thats why Im lost. I just train to cause muscular hypertrophy and then feed my muscles with exceptional nutrition. I will call this Bino training.

I thought i was the inventor of that? darn, there goes my self asteem. btw, i would not recommend running the clen but just eating the right amount of cals plus stepping up the cardio will allow you to increase metabolic rate as well as keep the unwanted fat off the body.

[hardgainer12]

so an extra cardio day wont hinder my muscle gains right? i just dont want to risk losing muscle. thx 4 the help

[guest589745]

Well i didnt realize, you arent on any anabolics are you?

catabolism is still possible but overly expected I think.

[hardgainer12]

Well i didnt realize, you arent on any anabolics are you?

catabolism is still possible but overly expected I think.

no im clean right now. i was just wondering if its possible to make muscle gains while on clen or if it will just burn all my calories

[hardgainer12]

im not trying to cut im just trying to keep fat gains at a minimum

[Warrior]

im not trying to cut im just trying to keep fat gains at a minimum

Are you staggering your diet? Dante has mention that he coaches with periods of overfeeding, underfeeding, carb cut-offs... and such...

[guest589745]

Yea leave the clen alone. Diet and cardio shoudl be fine. Do like i said above.

[hardgainer12]

Are you staggering your diet? Dante has mention that he coaches with periods of overfeeding, underfeeding, carb cut-offs... and such...

im just keeping my protein at 2gs per pound of body weight and following the program. i believe his philosophy is pretty smart and totally makes sense. didnt u try it a while back? howd u like it?

[hardgainer12]

Yea leave the clen alone. Diet and cardio shoudl be fine. Do like i said above.

sweet bro thx for the help

[Warrior]

im just keeping my protein at 2gs per pound of body weight and following the program. i believe his philosophy is pretty smart and totally makes sense. didnt u try it a while back? howd u like it?

I have been using it the last two weeks with good results... I like the reasoning behind it. I will be leaving on vaccation back to the States this week so I will be taking a breather for a couople weeks... but once i get back and settled I plan on doing a DC log...

Try staggering your diet. Watch your weight and bodyfat - if you start to get too heavy and smooth - cut the carbs out for a few days. If you start to drop too much weight or start working yourself into the gutter - do a carb load. There is no reason to get fat on doggcrapp (for some reason that just don't sound right )... you should be partitioning plenty of calories toward fueling muscle growth.