I train hard and I am 20 stone, I don't want to put any mass on I only want to cut up and become more solid. Well I say I don't want to put any mass on, well! maybe a bit. Anyone got any suggestions?
I train hard and I am 20 stone, I don't want to put any mass on I only want to cut up and become more solid. Well I say I don't want to put any mass on, well! maybe a bit. Anyone got any suggestions?
whats your cycle history? training experience
head to the diet forum...diet is the key when trying to lean up
Originally Posted by tonytone
haha i used to hate when people said that to me.. but your very right
Originally Posted by Italion Stallion07
I had a course of deca & sustanon when I was about 19, I am 29 now I have trained for about 9-10 years.
There are compounds that will help you to harden up and lose water but, like everyone else has said, diet determines results.
Diet is 88% of the equation. if that is in order for cutting, then AAs can help but it will NOT do the work for you!! What are your stats and BF% now
Diet, cardio and some t-3.
You can't really say there is one specific thing that works best for cutting, too many factors. All steroids are really going to do is bring out a little more vascularity and help retain muscle mass on a low caloric intake, diet is the key. But a few good steroids to take while dieting are Winstrol, Anavar, Tren, test propionate. Also, Clenbuterol will help burn fat too. But diet is the #1 factor
Originally Posted by BigGuns101
I disagree. Unless he's hitting at least 500mg/wk of some anabolics T-3 will strip too much muscle
Not at alow steady dosage IMO, I do agree with you though, at higher dosages I definitly think it was hindering my gains. I just tried it so I could speak from experinece. Ive known guys to run it with/and without gh at 25mcgs aday and not lose very much muscle if any at all.(better results with GH)jmoOriginally Posted by stayinstacked
Get your diet, Cardio and workout routine tuned in. Until you do this, steroids won't be of much benefit either.
When that is all in check, good cutting steroids are;
Tren, Prop, EQ(if you can control the hunger) and Winny are among the popular but not for the weak either. These are also not starter steroids either because they come with serious injection pain from the compounds and the frequency of the shots too.
agree, I've done Prop/Tren/Winny, you need to take injections everyday to maximize your results. It takes effort physically/mentaly to stay on top of them.Originally Posted by Lavinco
Tren, Prop, Winny and Masteron. I ran Tren and Prop 100mg/EOD and 1ml of Winny EOD for 6 weeks then subbed out the Tren for the Masteron for the next three weeks. Sheesh, for the last three weeks the fat was just fleeing from my body. After all was said and done, I was down from 212 to 200 with 186.7 lbs LBM (same number as I started with).
Diet is the most important. My favorites for cutting up are tren, prop, masteron and primo. Eq makes me too hungry so that's no good for me. But, I personally like the tren/prop/primo combo for cutting up.
Originally Posted by Italion Stallion07
believe me...i STILL hate to hear it
depends on bf% anything above 15% should solely be diet.due to the fact its harder to drop weight the lower your%. those last few pounds that dont seem to go away with clean meals and cardio is the only time id suggest t3 and winny
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