19 years old, 5'8, 275 lbs. I wanna get an estimate of my BF% before I start my Winstrol-V cutting cycle.
19 years old, 5'8, 275 lbs. I wanna get an estimate of my BF% before I start my Winstrol-V cutting cycle.
i'm gonna guess 20-22%. don't think your ready for a cycle either. Your conditioning shows that your diet is not in check which is a must for any cycle.
25% and agree, try getting your diet right first. It will benefit you way more in the long run.
What is whinny going to do?
winstrol will do nothing for you at that bf. you really need to drop 40 pounds or so and then look into aas and cycling.
22% keep working hard bro...traps look good in the one pic
25%+ bf, you got a base under "there" tho.
When you say winstrol-v you dont mean those socalled legal steroids that dont do sh-t do you?
cardio+diet+training before cycle
nice traps
25%bf
I'm sure you have lots of muscle under there - for now I would just focus on lots of cardio and small meal spread out across the day. Once you lose your fat you will look great. At 25% bodyfat and a weight of 275, that means you would have to lose 41.25lbs of fat to get down to 10% - at which point you would be a ripped 233.75lbs, which is very good for 5'8"!
In all honesty, Ripped Fuel Extreme by Twinlabs really works. I have lost more fat off of Ripped Fuel than Clen!
hmm i believe he's closer to 30% there is good amount of fat on him, and as far as the rippedfuel vs clen comment, i've lost more weight on rippedfuel also but i believe that clen burns more fat, on rippefuel i felt as though it was catabolic and alot of my weight was temporary water weight, clen definately gets me more defined.Originally Posted by Superhuman
Originally Posted by Sasso09
So do I.
Ditto. Diet down to 220 or so and see how you look. Post up your current diet in the diet section to get it critiqued.Originally Posted by Hellmask
30%. Dont think about aas right now think cutting
judging by your username it seems you wouldnt really be able to cut down without changing your position...
id say no less than 30% bodyfat dude. no point cycling anything yet, diet will be your friend. looking strong though, but there is a hell of alot of fat there too
30%+ Take a look at the sticky in the diet forum for cutting, some good info there. IMO your to young for any AS.
so do iOriginally Posted by Hellmask
defo high 20s.
as noregrets says, check the stick for cutting in the diet forum, some useful info in there, and you should see some cool results pretty soon![]()
somewhere between 28-30%. It seems you have a good base, focus on cutting for the next months and you would look great!
I do not think losing weight and getting down to 230 is an option for himm. judging by his pics and name it looks like he is a freshamn offensive lineman in college. Its dam near impossible to play there at 230 5'8 no matter what level.
by the way, im not arguing with u guys when u say he shouldn't cycle yet because he is afterall 19 and i also dont see the point of doing winstroll.
Last edited by suckysucky; 08-15-2006 at 08:10 AM.
28% nice traps, cut some fat and you have a nice base.
Originally Posted by Superhuman
if that is correct... i would say only get down to 15% and keep ur weigh up higher... but just try to get ur stomach somewhat in line or close to ur chest...!!! my opinion and ull be sweet.. ull also have good arm defi when u cut ur stomach
does he even care what we say? he hasn't posted since we started giving him advise
Definitely hold off on the winny. Get a good diet if you want to cut. You are probably anywhere around the 30% mark imo.
I do care what is being posted, I check every day. I was just wanting advice on BF and I got a bunch of people saying don't do Winny. I've already bought it I'm going to do it.
Since you are dead set on running that make sure you go on a good diet. Low carbs are probably going to work well for you. Do something like 6 days low, one day high. You have a lot of BF to drop and you aren't going to drop it by running Winny. In fact, you might not notice anything from the Winny at all.Originally Posted by leftguardpratt65
Good luck, dude. Don't forget to diet.
Remember he said Winstrol-V. Like the fake stuff...do it all day dude go for it. it aint real.
25% BF I would guess, good traps though. More importantly though, Winny probably won't be as beneficial to you as an OTC fat burner, as it acts like a cutting/hardening agent for those who have a lower BF%. This is assumiong you are talking about the REAL winny, and not "legal gear" or that fake stuff, which is no good. They name it similarly to trick you into thinking its as good. I am still trying to cut weight myself, but just because you "already bought it", is not a reason to use it...yet. I would say get something like Ripped Fuel, Lipo 6, Methyl Ripped etc.... or even Gaspari's Thyro Tabs, which I hear work pretty well. Then once you get leaner, then use the winny. I just think that at this point in your cutting it will have little , if any, effect at all. Though you are going to hate hearing it, 9 out of 10 people on this board will tell you Diet + Cardio are the fastest, especially with a thermogenic. I know you want to lose the weight fast, everyone does. But do it propperly and it will be more likely to stay off, which is what you ultimate goal is. Hope this helped
you will see no results from the winstrol. i did winstrol alone (bad idea but i survived) when i was 12% and i couldnt see any change.
do what you like. dont be disappointed.
Yeah, you should have read up on the effects of winstrol before you went and bought it, winstrol only noticably works on a body fat percentage that is lower... say like 12-15 at the highest. you're better off just dieting hardcore for a year or two and getting down to the lowest percentage you can get to naturally then worrying about AAS later on down the line. and that winny-V stuff.... you're better off taking tylenol and labeling it TREN.. the stuff is phony
The stuff im getting is not winny-v the fake stuff its Winstrol-V the stronger version of Winstrol. It is still Stanozolol and not the fake cyclostanozolol like in the winny-v. I am cutting down my diet hardcore. It will consist of fruit, lean meat and veggies. Along with protein shakes, protein bars, and a couple different supplements besides the winstrol-v
good luck. check out the diet forum if you need any assistance with the diet.
Not sure on bf, but you got bad arse traps! Hope you get where you want to be man. Be safe about it.
Originally Posted by leftguardpratt65
Usually You take AAS after you get the basic stuff down and have practiced for years..................but ok!?
By the way like said in many of your other posts. Your obese you shouldnt be using steroids, get your bf% down about 15% & then if you have any muscle under there after you've lost the fat then maybe you should start to think about if you need to cycle or not. Truth.
Last edited by Hellmaskbanned; 08-17-2006 at 06:37 PM.
HellMask is right. Keep in mind though if you are thinkin about usin AAS with high BF%, be prepared for the higher potetential of side effects. More specifically, aromitization to DHT , then th sh*t will really hit the fan, cause I hear gyno is NO fun. u might wanna try an ECA stack with your diet. Post your cutting diet in the diet forum and people will critique it so you can get the best out of your diet. If you ignore verything else, just make sure you have done TONS of research on what you put into your body, because it can just as easily screw you over as it can do well for you. Good luck with your goals.
winstrol doesnt cause gyno.More specifically, aromitization to DHT , then th sh*t will really hit the fan, cause I hear gyno is NO fun.
Dude, cut down to a good 220...excellent frame. You got a set of traps on ya.
IMO, I would lay off the cycle...seriously, you won't notice a difference. You will notice a difference with winstrol at lower BF%'s but I'm guessing you already started the cycle.
If you have a good cutting diet mixed with cardio 5-6 days a week, thats all you need to get the fat off.
Good luck whatever you decide to do.
Welp seems like we try to tell you the honest truth and you could give about two shiits. have fun taking that stuff with your already extremely high cholesterol levels, by the looks of your diet with that stomach you will probably break out with boils the size of cadillacs through the way you eat. ya maybe your traps are nice in size, but wheres the rest? O, and for the winny to take any decent effect on you, your BF should be in the low teens and least. O and the fact that your 19 taking a cycle makes this whole situation a bunch of BS in that matter. If this is a football thing that will try and improve your productivity on the field(hence your Profile name) in which i ask then you are absolutely wrong. You are only 5'8'' and with that short body and such massive amount of weight you are carrying the cycle isnt gonna help you get to the next level or even better yourself in the next level. But your young, and i admire the desperation you have to better yourself and look better but you need to face the facts that go deeper than the outer appearance of a person. And in your case, your cardiovascular system is completelly running on overdrive. You need to take a glance at a dose of reality fast and know that AAS isnt a trick that belongs in your bag, not just yet at least. Im sorry to come off as a dick and completely badmouth the situation but what do you expect me to do? Your completely unhealthy!! So just remember this, would you rather take the winstrol and get minimal results through the lack of training and dieting that you posses to perform, obviously through these pics, or would you like to realize that you need to get in shape before considering anything in the world of AAS for your own safety and health? Think long term and not just in the moment, because that one cycle of winny isnt gonna do dick with what appears to be how you work out and diet. Regardless, good luck to you and whatever you decide to do.
Enough saidOriginally Posted by Hellmask
why not just do this hardcore diet for a few months to make sure you can keep up w/ it? besides, i guarantee the results you will achieve from dieting will far surpass any improvement you realistically would gain from a winny only cycle at this point. The guys on this board advising you to hold off on aas are not doing so to be dicks, many ppl here have used winny before and know first hand when it works best. I know you already bought it, but tht doesnt mean you have to use it right away. Just hold on to it, and lose some weight thru dieting first.Originally Posted by leftguardpratt65
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