Xanax and Growth

[Daven]

Quick question for anyone in the know...

I'm on a pretty basic cycle right now, and I'm trying to make sure I get my moneys worth.

I have a pretty busy life, and have a hard time shutting myself down sometimes, so I was prescribed Xanax to control the unessisary worrying and help me to sleep when I have trouble at night. Somedays I take none, but on high stress days and when I can't sleep I can get up to 1mg. I also throw in .25mg on days when my muscles are really sore. But keep in mind I try to take it only when I need to due to its rather addictive properties.

My question is about its muscle relaxant qualities, I'm wondering if this would have any adverse affect on muscle growth or tone, or if because of its short half life im worried about nothing.

Thanks!

[Grappler13]

Xanax (alprazolam) is a benzodiazepam (sp?) and is 1) not physically addictive and 2) you cannot overdose on the stuff. I see no reason that it would interfere with growth unless it causes a lack of necc. REM sleep. Nonetheless, it's a great sleep aid, but keep it under control. I took it throughout my first cycle and gained about 15-20 lbs of muscle. It got me to sleep easy and personally, it doesn;t make me groggy in the morning.

[stuball]

Xanax (alprazolam) is a benzodiazepam (sp?) and is 1) not physically addictive and 2) you cannot overdose on the stuff. I see no reason that it would interfere with growth unless it causes a lack of necc. REM sleep. Nonetheless, it's a great sleep aid, but keep it under control. I took it throughout my first cycle and gained about 15-20 lbs of muscle. It got me to sleep easy and personally, it doesn;t make me groggy in the morning.

Dude where did you get your info from ??? NOT PHYSICALLY ADDICITIVE ???

[JAYROD]

Dude where did you get your info from ??? NOT PHYSICALLY ADDICITIVE ???

i wanna know where from too. i believe brett farve was strung out bad on them quite a few years ago.

[MoneyAddyct]

Benzo's are one of the hardest compounds to break an addiction to.

[stuball]

Grappler go to www.benzo.org.uk zanax is one of the most physically addicitive drugs out there !!! You could die from going cold turkey, and the withdrawl is one of the worst of any drugs not to mention seizures...Thats just not safe info to give anybody, and one mg a day is a lot, do that for three months, and bro your addicited..

[cj1capp]

Xanax (alprazolam) is a benzodiazepam (sp?) and is 1) not physically addictive and 2) you cannot overdose on the stuff. I see no reason that it would interfere with growth unless it causes a lack of necc. REM sleep. Nonetheless, it's a great sleep aid, but keep it under control. I took it throughout my first cycle and gained about 15-20 lbs of muscle. It got me to sleep easy and personally, it doesn;t make me groggy in the morning.

benzo ARE VERY ADDICTIVE YOU WERE TAKING A LOW DOSE BUT WITH TIME COMES INCREASED TOLERANCE AND A TERBILE CYCLE CAN HAPPEN THAT IS ADDICTION. THERE ARE IM SURE BETTER SLEEP AIDES OUT THERE.

[jollygreenGIANT]

yea bro trust me...u CAN get addicted to bars...trust me

[Daven]

Well I can understand what he's saying by "physical addiction," because it's pretty well thought (although what is true and what most doctors say can often be very diffrent storys) that at normal dosages there is no actual physical depedency. but its quite mentaly addictive and getting off can be some of the worst withdrawls you can have on just about any substance. Xanax for sure because of its short half life. But at over recomended dosages, quite a few people have died from it.

I'm just wondering how the muscle and sleep effects affect your overall growth. For or against.

Btw, love the avitar Giant.

[MrMeathead]

Xanax (alprazolam) is a benzodiazepam (sp?) and is 1) not physically addictive and 2) you cannot overdose on the stuff. I see no reason that it would interfere with growth unless it causes a lack of necc. REM sleep. Nonetheless, it's a great sleep aid, but keep it under control. I took it throughout my first cycle and gained about 15-20 lbs of muscle. It got me to sleep easy and personally, it doesn;t make me groggy in the morning.

First off xanax is one of the most addictive prescription drugs in the world. Second I just had a good friend pass away from a xanax overdose and it is extremely dangerous.

[jollygreenGIANT]

thanks Daven...true points on bars too

[stuball]

yea bro trust me...u CAN get addicted to bars...trust me

Bro i know, i started off doing .5 mg's a day for panic disorder, 6 months in i was up to 8 mg's a day, took me almost a year to get off, then you have to worry about the post accute withdrawl symptoms, you can detox off herion in a week, benzo's are a different story, slow and steady...

[mwolffey]

some docs prescribe anything nowadays...try ambien

[MrMeathead]

some docs prescribe anything nowadays...try ambien

That ambien sh*t is no JOKE! It makes me feel like im in the twilight zone if I don't fall asleep on it.

[scubadoo]

shouldnt we be talking about the effect on body building? will it interfere with muscle development? i guess no one really knows...

[Ufa]

Just use a little common sense. No one here is washing it down with wisky.
What's the biggie. You got to sleep. If you get (dependant) switch with
ambien, or others. I'm so beat up I need something. We are talking perscription.

[one8nine]

Xanax (alprazolam) is a benzodiazepam (sp?) and is 1) not physically addictive and 2) you cannot overdose on the stuff. I see no reason that it would interfere with growth unless it causes a lack of necc. REM sleep. Nonetheless, it's a great sleep aid, but keep it under control. I took it throughout my first cycle and gained about 15-20 lbs of muscle. It got me to sleep easy and personally, it doesn;t make me groggy in the morning.

i have known 3 people to DIE on bars ALONE how can you not OD it will SHUT YOUR HEART AND BRAIN DOWN its a TRANQ

[Pieru]

i used valium,and doc said xanax is worst benzo for addictive effects.Its just half life of compound what make its so addictive,valium doeasnt give so much euphoric feeling...they also use valium from withdrawal from xanax.

[Pieru]

i have known 3 people to DIE on bars ALONE how can you not OD it will SHUT YOUR HEART AND BRAIN DOWN its a TRANQ

i know dude who try to kill himself takin 50 valiums in almost 3promille.he waked up after 3 day and was 2days inside just thinking what the hell just happened.lucky dude.I THINK its xanax and another fast acting compunds that kills people.Also heard that antidepressands can be deadly with alcohol.

[305GUY]

XANAX IS THE DEVIL!



nuff said...

[got fina?]

LOL yeah that was kinda funny since i know a bit about the drug.
Its one of the most addictive prescriptions out there and one of the most use by dope addicts. And the part where u cant die from them is just plain stupid.

[R69]

XANAX IS THE DEVIL!



nuff said...

Xanax it is not the devil if you need such medications.My old friend xanax have helped me very much,i have social anxiety and sometimes when i have hard times i take a .5 - 1 mg.I think if you take it one or two times a week at this dose cant cause a big dependency.

[Grappler13]

First off xanax is one of the most addictive prescription drugs in the world. Second I just had a good friend pass away from a xanax overdose and it is extremely dangerous.

The xanax did not kill your friend per se but rather it was probably apnea casused by the xanax. What I was trying to say was that xanax alone is not toxic in the sense that other drigs are toxic and may cause death. Xanax and other benzos will certainly knock you out cold for a long time but the bars alone will not kill you due to any toxicity.

[Grappler13]

LOL yeah that was kinda funny since i know a bit about the drug.
Its one of the most addictive prescriptions out there and one of the most use by dope addicts. And the part where u cant die from them is just plain stupid.

Each year, Dihydrogen Monoxide is a known causative component in many thousands of deaths and is a major contributor to millions upon millions of dollars in damage to property and the environment. Some of the known perils of Dihydrogen Monoxide are:
* Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.
* Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.
* Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.
* DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
* Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.
* Contributes to soil erosion.
* Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.
* Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.
* Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.
* Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.
* Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere.
* Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.

Scary shit: and it's H2O. ANYTHING is deadly pretty much and further, inclinical studies in rats:

Manifestations of alprazolam overdosage include somnolence, confusion, impaired coordination, diminished reflexes and coma. Death has been reported in association with overdoses of alprazolam by itself, as it has with other benzodiazepines. In addition, fatalities have been reported in patients who have overdosed with a combination of a single benzodiazepine, including alprazolam and alcohol; alcohol levels seen in some of these patients have been lower than those usually associated with alcohol-induced fatality.

The acute oral LD50 in rats is 331-2171 mg/kg. Other experiments in animals have indicated that cardiopulmonary collapse can occur following massive intravenous doses of alprazolam (over 195 mg/kg; 975 times the maximum recommended daily human dose of 10 mg/day). Animals could be resuscitated with positive mechanical ventilation and the intravenous infusion of norepinephrine bitartrate.

Yes, you can die from xanax , as you can from anything in excess. I did not intend to say that you cannot die from eating 300mg of xanax, but as this thread was started, the question had to do with its effects on growth. I still contend that if you take a moderate amount at night to sleep when necessary, you'll have no problems. Some of you guys seem to be parroting BS akin to "steroids will make your prostate fall out at 50." Just be responsible and think.

And one8nine, how many damned bars did your three friends take? Jesus, I've seen plenty of guys and gals take a 100mg in an evening without dying. That's 50 bars! Fifty. My guess is it was mixed a bit with some alcohol or worse.

[Grappler13]

LOL yeah that was kinda funny since i know a bit about the drug.
Its one of the most addictive prescriptions out there and one of the most use by dope addicts. And the part where u cant die from them is just plain stupid.

One of the MOST ADDICTIVE prescriptions? You obviously don't know shit about the drug, its classifications, indications, or effects. It is a US Schedule IV:
Schedule IV drugs:

Findings required:

(A) The drug or other substance has a low potential for abuse relative to the drugs or other substances in schedule III.
(B) The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
(C) Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to limited physical dependence or psychological dependence relative to the drugs or other substances in schedule III.

Dope addicts? Care to classify and even if "dope" addicts use it, that doesn't have any statistical releveance. Dope addicts use food, water, and oxygen too.

[Daven]

This thread got a bit off topic. But I think I've got my answer that it will do no real harm in the short term. I looked it up the best I could, but theres not many studies about people taking gear and xanax for some reason. :P Just wanted to be sure I wasn't screwing myself somehow. Thanks for everyones input.

* The rest of this long ass post is to the other thoughts. *

I know quite a bit about the substance, as I'm a bit of a drug nut. (Not in abusing them, just very interesting to me. I've done quite a bit of research and a few classes on verious drugs and drug effects while figuring out my major over the years.)

Anyway, death by Xanax alone, is VERY hard to do. I belive it was posted above this that the LD50 (Leathal dose 50% of the time, generaly in lab rats) is amazingly high. There have been cases of attempted suicide in that 100mg or more have been taken without death.

I'm not saying that they had a good time, but there are generaly no long term effects from a high single dosage.

The killer with Xanax and other benzo's (but more so with Xanax and other shorter acting benzo forms) is usualy involved with additional CNS depresants. If you recal a quite recent national story, of the braindead woman and life support, that was actualy caused by valium (all benzos have the same basic clinical effect, just diffrent half lifes) and alcohol. Even benadryl can cause serious problems. But everyone is diffrent. Some can take 10mg Xanax and a half of a Southern Comfort and jog to work the next day... others can die.

The next common problem, is the withdrawl after a time on them. Even at recomended dosages. Usualy, they have a VERY bad time, but in people that are prone to them, they can induce seizures, and death. Xanax, even though its rated as being pretty safe, can be very easy to fall into an addiction to if you let yourself. Generaly, the addictive nature of a drug, and how tough the withdraw when comming off, is directly related to it's onset of action. The "rush" if you will. This is why when drugs are injected (cocaine, heroin etx.) they are much easier to become addicted to, than if taken in another form.



Honestly, people with any form of self control and common sense, can use just about any drug without any problems. As grappler put it, its generaly a lack of self control and actualy knowing what your putting into your body that kills people.

Opium, while has its (huge) share of addicts like any drug, as been used before recorded history by many, many people in china in a rational way, without any serious problems, and is still used to this day. The same goes with alcohol, you can have a glass of wine or a 44oz big gulp. The problem with drugs generaly, are just that most of the population doesn't forsee the problems that they can get themselves into without self control. (No offence to anyone that has had a problem with a substance, as I've had one myself (once you take a few courses in chemistry you figure out just how easy speed is to make ), but it's generaly a life lesson that has to be learned the hard way)

[dedic8ed1]

even though this guys advice was quickly shut down let me reidurate.I was hooked on these things man and let me tell you it was no picnic kiking them.I was taking up to 20 blues thats 20 mgs at one time for about 6 months straight almost died in my sleep a couple times waking up with throw up all over me not knowing where i was or how i got there,too many doctors are giving these things out like there tic tacs and it's advice like this guy grappler13 gives that could really get people hurt by underestimating this drug,so please do a little research on perscription drugs before you take advice from anyone.try some tylenol PM or ambein but all sleep aids are addictive.

[lifthard2005]

Xanax (alprazolam) is a benzodiazepam (sp?) and is 1) not physically addictive and 2) you cannot overdose on the stuff. I see no reason that it would interfere with growth unless it causes a lack of necc. REM sleep. Nonetheless, it's a great sleep aid, but keep it under control. I took it throughout my first cycle and gained about 15-20 lbs of muscle. It got me to sleep easy and personally, it doesn;t make me groggy in the morning.

dude, cant overdose? are you serious? if u take too much the shit will stop your heart. it is a tranquilizer!

[MrMeathead]

i have known 3 people to DIE on bars ALONE how can you not OD it will SHUT YOUR HEART AND BRAIN DOWN its a TRANQ

You know where I am coming from then. The fact is all these deaths would not have taken place if the xanax were not ingested and to me that is a pretty good sign that xanax can be fatal if you consume TOO much. You CAN overdose on xanax!

[Grappler13]

dude, cant overdose? are you serious? if u take too much the shit will stop your heart. it is a tranquilizer!

You can overdose on anything but some are harder to do so with:
http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims...%20%20Toxicity