Some advice. 19 years old

**bigluke1** · 08-02-2006, 05:37 AM

Hey guys n girls, i know im only young to use steroids but i have done alot of recearch and with the side effects but now im starting to regret it. Im doing 20mg dianabol a day and 500mg Test Enanthate a week, took 250mg on monday. Im worried at the fact that i might have messed up my testosterone levels allready cuz i havnt been horny since i started my cycle 2 days ago. What shall i do stop my cycle and do my pct or work through it till the test kicks in? my girlfriend is starting to notice allready since im usually horny 24/7.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 08-02-2006, 05:43 AM

I'd be suprised if the test had effected anything after one shot 2 days ago. It takes 3-4 weeks to kick in. Probably because your feeling nervous its affecting your libido. If your nervous about being on gear then you shouldnt be using it. Personally i would just stop taking the stuff. I don't believe PCT is warranted after 2 days, but see what others say as im no expert in these matters.

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 08-02-2006, 05:45 AM

WAY TO YOUNG FOR AAS.......YOU ARE 3-4 YEARS AWAY FROM EVEN CONSIDERING IT!!! at your age your natty levels are ALL you need to grow with proper diet . IMO you need to get off & run PCT before you do permanent damage to your body.

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 08-02-2006, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

I'd be suprised if the test had effected anything after one shot 2 days ago. It takes 3-4 weeks to kick in. Probably because your feeling nervous its affecting your libido. If your nervous about being on gear then you shouldnt be using it. Personally i would just stop taking the stuff. I don't believe PCT is warranted after 2 days, but see what others say as im no expert in these matters.

good point...I still believe you shouldnt be on anything at 19. you can grow more than you think by hittin up the diet forum & eating properly at your age

**marcus300** · 08-02-2006, 06:02 AM

You have enough natural hormones to produce good quality gains without taking any king of AAS, all you need is a good solid base which comes from food and training and this will give you the best base to work from in a few years to build good muscle tissue and maintain it,

I would come of do abit of pct wont do you any harm and forget AAS and concentrate on your diet and training program, you will without doubt do some form of harm to your body using AAS and such a young age, listen and learn.

**bigluke1** · 08-02-2006, 06:51 AM

Yeah maybe i was worried, the first time injecting wasnt so fun it felt like i had the flu. Anyway considering i was looking forward to my cycle i guess i should finnish and start my pct instead. Its so tempting when i see other people at my age making awsome gains from steroids while i work my arse off doing it natty. still confused what to do?

**marcus300** · 08-02-2006, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by bigluke1

Yeah maybe i was worried, the first time injecting wasnt so fun it felt like i had the flu. Anyway considering i was looking forward to my cycle i guess i should finnish and start my pct instead. Its so tempting when i see other people at my age making awsome gains from steroids while i work my arse off doing it natty. still confused what to do?

Read my post and you wont be confused, be mature about it, what you do now could damage you for life so re-think and do whats best, 19yrs old is no age using AAS, am not keep on trying to convince you its up to you, IVE TRIED.

**bigluke1** · 08-02-2006, 07:32 AM

ok mate well i'l start my pct straight away and i'l guess i'l have to throw away all my gear. what a waste!

***perfectbeast2001*** · 08-02-2006, 07:44 AM

its not a waste if it keeps you from doing yourself harm, which at that age is a disticnt possibility. you can make gains just as well as your friends if you work at getting your diet 100% spot on and stay away from booze and junk food. I just Wish i was 19 again with all that natural test raging around!! Good luck!!!!!

**bigluke1** · 08-02-2006, 08:22 AM

cheers for the advice man i think i rushed into things. i'm going to train a few years longer and get used to my body before i think of doing a cycle

SVTMuscle* · 08-02-2006, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

You have enough natural hormones to produce good quality gains without taking any king of AAS, all you need is a good solid base which comes from food and training and this will give you the best base to work from in a few years to build good muscle tissue and maintain it,

I would come of do abit of pct wont do you any harm and forget AAS and concentrate on your diet and training program, you will without doubt do some form of harm to your body using AAS and such a young age, listen and learn.

I know its harmful to do AAS early, but what exact harm can you do besides stunting future growth (out side of what happens to everyone)

**mwolffey** · 08-02-2006, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by SVTMuscle

I know its harmful to do AAS early, but what exact harm can you do besides stunting future growth (out side of what happens to everyone)

risks would be the same imo as a older person...just most likely, since he is 19 he does not have enough natural muscle which would help him with his aas gains later, both "on" and "off", if that makes any sense...gains would come much better to him later

**flyspyder** · 08-02-2006, 10:02 AM

big luke... please im me at twinturbo55....

your not gonna get on this forum and get any help at 19

**cfiler** · 08-02-2006, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by bigluke1

ok mate well i'l start my pct straight away and i'l guess i'l have to throw away all my gear. what a waste!

It's only a waste of money. Consider this a learning experience. It's your only body, you don't want to abuse it.

**Anabolios** · 08-02-2006, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by flyspyder

big luke... please im me at twinturbo55....

your not gonna get on this forum and get any help at 19

Won't get any help at 19? Help here is blind to age. Just because it's not what someone wants to hear doesn't mean that it's not help.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 08-02-2006, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by flyspyder

big luke... please im me at twinturbo55....

your not gonna get on this forum and get any help at 19

I bet he wants your gear in exchange for his "help" LMAO

**Gunns420** · 08-02-2006, 12:12 PM

Yeah bro that's way too young to be on steroids. I'm 25 and just started using them recently- if you are nervous then you are not ready. People have this perception that by using gear you're going to get huge right away- and you will, if you do it properly and you put in the effort in the gym. But people don't realize you could permanently mess up your body until it's too late. Just keep training and eating right. Slowly but surely, you will gain muscle.

**pauldpwriter** · 08-03-2006, 08:04 AM

So the assumption then is that if you're 19 you don't know what you're doing and thereby you will improperly use AS and screw up your body?

Or is it that even with proper usage you will mess up your body? If you have naturally high enough test levels at this age, wouldn't that just mean that aside from no more growth, AS would be even more effective for someone at this age, assuming the cycle is done properly?

I mean you could do this, you could do that. How about telling how to do this, given this, and given that, etc.

I'm 19 as well BigLuke, and they gave me the same advice. So for now I'm just sticking to clen, cyto, and the legal stuff, until I figure this all out. I damn sure am not going to let 1500 dollars worth of gear go to waste, even if I can't consume it, worst case scenario.
I do regret getting the Dbols though, they are too heavy for me. I should've sprung for primobolan instead, few side effects, no aromatising.

**Gunns420** · 08-03-2006, 08:38 AM

Bro it's a bad idea because you're not done developing. END OF STORY. You are still a kid, whether you like hearing that or not. You still have physical as well as mental development to undergo in the next 3-4 years- thats why we're telling you to wait. If you can't get big at 19 then you have an issue. AAS will never be right for you. And you are using Clen? So you have some fat to lose- so AAS, again is a bad idea. Get your diet right, lose the fat, train for a few years and reconsider at like 22 or 23. AAS is no joke and while it can help you get ripped it can also really hurt you if you don't know what you're doing. Why would we tell you not to take steroids if it wasn't harmful? We pretty much all take or have taken them, so listen to people who ACTUALLY KNOW. These guys have helped me gain close to 10 lbs in 4weeks on my first cycle. I studied AAS 6 months before I took a shot- and I still have to ask questions all the time.

**Gunns420** · 08-03-2006, 08:42 AM

Oh yeah, and $1500 worth of gear? Are you trying to juice up a football team? You can do human grade AAS for about 6 months with that much $$$. Especially if you're using cheap stuff like D-bol. You may REALLY want to reconsider your supplier.

**flyhalf** · 08-03-2006, 08:45 AM

i say tell them what to do, let them get big and ripped, then laugh at them when there 25 and have a usless dick. i understand where you guys are comming from (pauldpwriter and bigluke1), but the facts are simple, your gonna **** yourself up messing with this shit at 19. i can see it already in 5-6 years,

joe blow:"hi im 19years old and need help on my cycle"
pauldpwriter/bigluke1: "dude your way to young to be trying AAS i started when i was 19 and now im 5'8" and my dick hasnt been hard in over a year, but i look great. i really should have listened"
the end.

**Bigmax** · 08-03-2006, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by flyspyder

big luke... please im me at twinturbo55....

your not gonna get on this forum and get any help at 19

Oh really??/what are you going to do help him and explain to him how to take them???..we just had some very experienced guys here tell him he's not ready for them at his age...which is 100% correct!!!thats the best help he can get right now...He's not even finished his growth potential let alone his growth plates.Your going to get on here and say they wont help at 19,Im me ...ok I'm going to keep my eye on you smart a$$!!!!!

**Gunns420** · 08-03-2006, 08:52 AM

hahaha way to pull that one out of the bag Flyhalf. A useless d*ck but I look great......

**pauldpwriter** · 08-03-2006, 09:42 AM

Oh no I may have mispoken. The dbol I bought before the rest. I'm impulsive you see. The dbol I spent maybe a couple hundred bucks on, a year ago. The rest is deca and sustanon, but I'm including prices for the PCT stuff and clen as well. But in any case, I can't use it. Don't want to take the chance now.
The tone in which the research info on the accompanying anabolic review site spoke was as if this shit wasn't that bad at all. Even worse on the suppliers, but I suppose they are in business to do business.
Is the shelflife gonna be good for a few years? If not I may as well give the shit away. Easy come easy go.

**bigluke1** · 08-03-2006, 11:08 AM

I see you all make good points but has anyone here been affected and like to share there experience starting at my age, or know anyone personally? I think for people at my age it becomes hard to realize what the bad effects are until you go through them youself. I'm not saying i'd like a floppy cock for the rest of my life because i'd rather be skinny.

**Bigmax** · 08-03-2006, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by bigluke1

I see you all make good points but has anyone here been affected and like to share there experience starting at my age, or know anyone personally? I think for people at my age it becomes hard to realize what the bad effects are until you go through them youself. I'm not saying i'd like a floppy cock for the rest of my life because i'd rather be skinny.

Thats agood attitude bro...young guys do AAS too early and ende up on HRT for the rest of their lives..trust me you do things right and you can be big and cut and still have a hard dick.

**fanatic** · 08-03-2006, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by bigluke1

I think for people at my age it becomes hard to realize what the bad effects are until you go through them youself. I'm not saying i'd like a floppy cock for the rest of my life because i'd rather be skinny.

Then there you go. Stop the AAS and wait until youre older bro. I know you'vre heard this a million times but its true. Good luck.

**bigluke1** · 08-03-2006, 11:25 AM

Thats a valid point. I know exactly of the risks. I wish there was a way i can carry on my cycle while making the sides as low as possible. So would proper pct bring back my test levels as they were? The main reasons i started my cycle was because i live in an area where i need to take care of myself and gaining another 25lb would have been great.

Originally Posted by pauldpwriter

So the assumption then is that if you're 19 you don't know what you're doing and thereby you will improperly use AS and screw up your body?

Or is it that even with proper usage you will mess up your body? If you have naturally high enough test levels at this age, wouldn't that just mean that aside from no more growth, AS would be even more effective for someone at this age, assuming the cycle is done properly?

I mean you could do this, you could do that. How about telling how to do this, given this, and given that, etc.

I'm 19 as well BigLuke, and they gave me the same advice. So for now I'm just sticking to clen, cyto, and the legal stuff, until I figure this all out. I damn sure am not going to let 1500 dollars worth of gear go to waste, even if I can't consume it, worst case scenario.
I do regret getting the Dbols though, they are too heavy for me. I should've sprung for primobolan instead, few side effects, no aromatising.

**IIIIIIIIIIII** · 08-03-2006, 11:28 AM

yup, I am 20, on my second cycle, and now that i have reached being jackkedd.. its lost its appeal, granted ya iu wanna be ripped and bulky,.. but this bloated juice head look that is cool in all the nightclubs..well is lame... and granted although I am fairly knowledgeable in AAS i still am aware of the bad choice I had made...I got blood done yesterday and hopefully everything is good and my doctor can help me with bringing my natty test back to normal,, I am sure ill try AAS again, but probally not for a few years... when I have finished growing.. anyways.. I cant say its the biggest mistake of ones life to mess with this s*** at 19... cuz i did and have not had any ill effect that I or my doctor can see... but everyone is different and it is very likely you could **** yourself up... IMO just hold off... like the vets said, fix your diet and work out hard... I changed my diet 2 weeks into this cycle..and granted i have always beein in good shape, i had about 18% fat this time around... and i think the diet is doing me more goodn then the juice...

anyways..im done!!! ndo what you want..

**Gunns420** · 08-03-2006, 01:27 PM

Yeah the shelf-life is usually a few years. I have a bottle of Sustanon 250 I think it expires in 2010.

**fanatic** · 08-03-2006, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by bigluke1

So would proper pct bring back my test levels as they were?

Honestly, probably yes. The thing is, the negative consequences to supressed natural test levels could be alot more harsh to someone that hasn't hit his/her natural growth potential as compared to someone tha has. Risk determination bro.

**yom** · 08-03-2006, 08:28 PM

bro whyd you even start you knew what the consequences were and took a shot anyway dumb

**Kesmai** · 08-04-2006, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by getnjakked

good point...I still believe you shouldnt be on anything at 19. you can grow more than you think by hittin up the diet forum & eating properly at your age

This is true until about mid 20s right?

**Spyder** · 08-04-2006, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Kesmai

This is true until about mid 20s right?

Yeah, but who the hell can wait till then

**Bigmax** · 08-04-2006, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by Spyder

Yeah, but who the hell can wait till then

A rational mature fella thats listens to good advise and cares about his and future!

**bigluke1** · 08-04-2006, 01:37 PM

So is it safe to say that 1 week 500mg of test en hasnt ****ed up my natty levels?

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