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    My wife and roids

    My wife wants to decrease her BF%.

    Here are her stats:

    27 years old, 120 lbs, 5'-1", 20-23% BF tops. She is moderately active, and has a good deal of nutrition and fitness knowledge.

    Her conditions:

    She MUST be on birth control to control ovarian cysts. She also has a blood condition that may prevent her blood from clotting normally (causing a ruptured ovarian cyst to bleed excessively).

    She has enough clen tabs on hand to run a month or so.

    I would rather she do a cycle of anavar at 5 mg/ed for six weeks.
    She is worried about aas affecting her hormone levels in a negative way (she does not want to ovulate).

    Any opinions, thoughts?

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    Uh I wouldnt recomend anythgin besides var at the most in her case.

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    Why not change her cardio routine and diet first?

    Does she plan on competeing in anything?

    If not why add aas, when she can cut naturally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    Why not change her cardio routine and diet first?

    Does she plan on competeing in anything?

    If not why add aas, when she can cut naturally?

    Yup.

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    I agree. I would be more comfortable with her on var as instead of clen. What do you think?

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    FUk clen and all stimulants like that. Gave me chest pains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    Why not change her cardio routine and diet first?

    Does she plan on competeing in anything?

    If not why add aas, when she can cut naturally?

    Good question. She eats about a 1000 kcals a day. Pretty healthy, could stand to do more cardio. It has been hard for her to lose weight, naturally, in the past year.

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    Have more sex lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Have more sex lol.

    That dept. is great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Have more sex lol.




    Solves that problem.....NEXT


    But seriously, what is she doing for cardio now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask


    Solves that problem.....NEXT


    But seriously, what is she doing for cardio now?
    She works on the stair master for 45 minutes 3x a week. Some weeks not as much...
    Here energy levels are low and the cysts give her pain so it is hard for her to keep it up. She needs a boost.

    The doc said she cant take ibuprophin or anything like that. Her pain keeps her down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny-too-small
    She works on the stair master for 45 minutes 3x a week. Some weeks not as much...
    Here energy levels are low and the cysts give her pain so it is hard for her to keep it up. She needs a boost.

    The doc said she cant take ibuprophin or anything like that. Her pain keeps her down.


    Why cant she take Ibuprophin?

    If she has medical problems etc. I don't think she should put anything in her system that might complicate them. Women are very sensitive to aas compared to us, and they can experience sides much more severe.

    I would talk to a experienced docter about the subject before she gets on if it was me.

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    i know allot of fitness chickys that run var, winny ,and primo ..and like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny-too-small
    That dept. is great

    umm, by your name I would question if that dept is great...j/k bro

    as recommended I would seriously talk to a doc before giving her any AS, especially if Ibuprofin upsets her.

    at 5'1 120lbs, I wouldn't think her bf level is that high. First go get that determined so you know exactly where she is starting. I would imagine it is a lot less than you think. If she is only eating 1000 cal/day she should definitly be losing weight as is, without adding anything to the mix.

    I would have her start doing her cardio in the morning before she has anything to eat and possibly start circuit training, have her keep heart rate up with minimal rest between sets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny-too-small
    She works on the stair master for 45 minutes 3x a week. Some weeks not as much...
    Here energy levels are low and the cysts give her pain so it is hard for her to keep it up. She needs a boost.

    The doc said she cant take ibuprophin or anything like that. Her pain keeps her down.

    as with anything your body will adjust to the routine and eventually she will not see any changes. change her routine and she will start seeing changes.

    and guys I wouldn't recommend anything just yet. I do not know her levels of pain, but I'm sure she is dealing with a fair bit. The first thing she needs to do is be able to work through the pain, once she can do that and continuously train without interruption add something to the mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    FUk clen and all stimulants like that. Gave me chest pains.
    you ass hole





    But i'd say, maybe invest time to change her routine before jumping ship with AAS.

    what about T3 and Clen stacked for her?

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    I think that a good change in her routine might really help her, like you guys suggest.
    I have been taking her to the gym w/ me to try and build up some lean mass so that her body burns more cals, but she gets too sore.
    A good change in cardio and style just might be the best first action.

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    A female that is 23% BF,has no place taking clen ans VAr for the body you want her to have.Male hormones are not the solution for a beach body.Even Var at that dose can make a female`s clit bigger.You want that?

    Take her to nutrienest and get her to do 1 hour cardio per day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twiney
    A female that is 23% BF,has no place taking clen ans VAr for the body you want her to have.Male hormones are not the solution for a beach body.Even Var at that dose can make a female`s clit bigger.You want that?

    Take her to nutrienest and get her to do 1 hour cardio per day.
    whats a nutrienest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by twiney
    A female that is 23% BF,has no place taking clen ans VAr for the body you want her to have.Male hormones are not the solution for a beach body.Even Var at that dose can make a female`s clit bigger.You want that?

    Take her to nutrienest and get her to do 1 hour cardio per day.

    Its not the body I want her to have, I love her body. Its the body SHE wants.

    As far as the clit getting bigger.....good grief, 5 mg/ed of var for six weeks will not do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny-too-small
    Its not the body I want her to have, I love her body. Its the body SHE wants.

    As far as the clit getting bigger.....good grief, 5 mg/ed of var for six weeks will not do that.
    I'd start by changing her ruitine, adding more days to training. Like work out for 5 days per week instead of 3, and change the cardio. Try a bike, or treadmill.

    If she wants a suppliment, assuming that she is taking in proper viatmins and minerals, I'd add some CLA and Green tea.

    I wouldn't add Var or clen yet.

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    Thank you all for your help! I will look into the CLA and Green tea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    Why cant she take Ibuprophin?

    If she has medical problems etc. I don't think she should put anything in her system that might complicate them. Women are very sensitive to aas compared to us, and they can experience sides much more severe.

    I would talk to a experienced docter about the subject before she gets on if it was me.

    I can't take ibuprophen because I found out that I have a rare problem that makes my blood not clott normally. =( So if I have any pain (from head aches to anything that you would take advil for) I have to take morphin... yuck I hate that stuff! So again, I am a perfectionist and have had so much down time that I was looking into something that would give me a boost... but I think I'll hold off for a while. Thanks! =)

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    Can we plase stop referring to AAS as "ROIDS"

    It makes one sound pretty stupid when they start running off at the mouth about "taking roids" and "juicing it up"

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    Quote Originally Posted by No One Knows
    Can we plase stop referring to AAS as "ROIDS"

    It makes one sound pretty stupid when they start running off at the mouth about "taking roids" and "juicing it up"
    hmm... not sure what you are referring to in this thread... but sure I'll keep that in mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by No One Knows
    Can we plase stop referring to AAS as "ROIDS"

    It makes one sound pretty stupid when they start running off at the mouth about "taking roids" and "juicing it up"

    uh, sorry doctor.

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    No prob buddy... just a pet peeve of mine

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    bro tell her to leave thta fat for more cushion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kster
    Thank you all for your help! I will look into the CLA and Green tea.
    Hi Kster
    I have been lurking about here for some time and saw the post about your problem and I have an old trick that just might fix you up. Before the days of the big supplement companies pushing all sorts of crap on us the hot thing to take for soreness from training was bicarbonate of soda. Yea that's right baking soda. It will neutralize the lactic asid that is causing the soreness. It's very safe to take, your body makes it in the stomach to protect the lining of the stomach from acid. If you take about two teaspoons, or even a tablespoon, in a cup of hot water before your workout it will lessen the soreness you have after training. Thirty years ago when I was much more gungho then I am today I took it so much it would come out in my sweat and I would have a fine white powder on my body. Give this a try when you are training. What you really need to get where you want to be is large multi joint exercises. Like squats, clean and press , deadlifts and benchpresses. You don't need to crush yourself under the bar but you do need to do these regularly. Squats can be painful if you don't have a lot of muscle to rest the bar on. I would recomend that you look into a couple of things called a stingray and a mantaray. The sting ray is for front squats, my absolute fav exercise, and the manta ray is for back squats. I broke my back from a parachute landing, crash would be more acurate, and I find the front squat doesn't twick my back so much. I suspect that if you have ovarian cysts you also have some back pain. If your back hurts a lot drop the deadlifts for now and do the others as the first exercise on a three day a week program. Such as Monday squats and other leg work. Wednesday clean and press and shoulder work with some lat pull downs. Friday Bench Press with some back work like bent over rows or one arm rows. Give it three months and look at yourself in the mirror. Then smile.

    Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcRoyal
    Hi Kster
    I have been lurking about here for some time and saw the post about your problem and I have an old trick that just might fix you up. Before the days of the big supplement companies pushing all sorts of crap on us the hot thing to take for soreness from training was bicarbonate of soda. Yea that's right baking soda. It will neutralize the lactic asid that is causing the soreness. It's very safe to take, your body makes it in the stomach to protect the lining of the stomach from acid. If you take about two teaspoons, or even a tablespoon, in a cup of hot water before your workout it will lessen the soreness you have after training. Thirty years ago when I was much more gungho then I am today I took it so much it would come out in my sweat and I would have a fine white powder on my body. Give this a try when you are training. What you really need to get where you want to be is large multi joint exercises. Like squats, clean and press , deadlifts and benchpresses. You don't need to crush yourself under the bar but you do need to do these regularly. Squats can be painful if you don't have a lot of muscle to rest the bar on. I would recomend that you look into a couple of things called a stingray and a mantaray. The sting ray is for front squats, my absolute fav exercise, and the manta ray is for back squats. I broke my back from a parachute landing, crash would be more acurate, and I find the front squat doesn't twick my back so much. I suspect that if you have ovarian cysts you also have some back pain. If your back hurts a lot drop the deadlifts for now and do the others as the first exercise on a three day a week program. Such as Monday squats and other leg work. Wednesday clean and press and shoulder work with some lat pull downs. Friday Bench Press with some back work like bent over rows or one arm rows. Give it three months and look at yourself in the mirror. Then smile.

    Peace
    Wow. Thank you so much for your help. I have always had a problem with soreness on leg day (only on leg days for that matter... hmm..) So I am excited to try this! As far as the squats- yea you are right, they do hurt my little boney back (the bar) is the stingray and mantaray something that you pad the bar with? I know its probably a stupid question... sorry. Thank you again for taking the time to help me out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kster
    hmm... not sure what you are referring to in this thread... but sure I'll keep that in mine
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    as said working out is a must. i have put my wife on the following routine and it works wonders for her:

    monday: 5x8 bench press
    5x8 squats
    5x8 bend over rows
    30 minutes cardio

    wedn: 5x8 incline bp
    5x8 leg press
    5x 8 dead lift
    30 min. cardio

    fri: 5x8 dumbell press
    5x8 pull downs
    5x8leg curl/extension (no rest between sets)
    30 min. cardio

    AM cardio on off days if she feels like it (not much as you prob could gues)

    plus she uses 2iu of hgh 5/2 with 100mcg t4 and she has done 2 cycles of anavar. first one at 10mg, second at 20mg (no side effects except for increased sex drive, but who's complaining )

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