Estrogen question.........

[guest589745]

I have read a few articles discussing estrogen and how it effects males, how it causes lowering of GnRH, LH and Testosterone; decreasing lean body mass; increasing fat mass and I am now thinking......


Since fat cells contain the aromatase enzyme which converts testosterone into estrogen, one with a higher bodyfat % would have more of this and in that case, would it be crazy too assume that someone with a higher (15+) BF% need a higher dose of an AI/SERM ?

I know that Adex for example is supposed to lower estrogen by what, 50% right? since the bodyfat percentage of the people used in these studies is unknown to me, I find it hard to judge if eliminating 50% of MY estrogen would still be "Enough". I was thinking of raising my AI dose while on and maybe even PCT now since I have always had what seems to be a lower rate of gains than others with a bodyfat percentage that is quite honestly, higher than others (18%).

Anyone wanna discuss this ?....................

[Anabolios]

Yes fatter people are most likely more prone to estrogen side effects. A slightly higher dose may be needed.

[guest589745]

Where is everyone?

[Anabolios]

Mine not good enough to start discussion? okeyyy

[guest589745]

Mine not good enough to start discussion? okeyyy

Well its just stating what I assumed but, I dunno......I wanted someone to say more

Thanks though, for further confirmation of what I thought to be true.

[one8nine]

sometimes when i feel to skinny i eat some birth control pills

[one8nine]

but on a serious note i think you are dead on i have never thought of this before but its great thinking.

but WHAT IF .5mg of letro or adex or 50mg aromasin is enough to stop aromatize in someone that is 300pounds with 25% ? i mean what if those doses were picked as advice cause they always work and you just piss out what you dont need? (meaning in reality a 200 with 10% only needs say 1/3 of that dose [im just making numbers up]) just throwing an idea out there. i remember reading that letro can stop all aromatize at 100mcg in some individuals

[guest589745]

bump

[shortie]

I think you got something there Skull, you know Pinnacle always advocated maintaining a low BF due to the additional aromatization that can occur. I have just never been told how much aromatase is produced by fat cells. I'll do some looking around and see what I can find.

[guest589745]

I think you got something there Skull, you know Pinnacle always advocated maintaining a low BF due to the additional aromatization that can occur. I have just never been told how much aromatase is produced by fat cells. I'll do some looking around and see what I can find.

Ive been looking around and I am now convinced it would make a cycle easier the lower the bodyfat % one has. Fat cells also have androgen receptros but how much they can effect you I am unsure........

[cfiler]

Estrogen related sides are definately less, the lower the body fat %.

[guest589745]

If I knew the average amount of estrogen in an adult male age 24 (On and off androgens?) I would be able to increase or decrease my AI/SERM until I have an acceptable amount. Bloodwork will be needed of course. I dont remember what my estrogen was when I had it checked....

anyone else care to chime in? Hint hint........

[guest589745]

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[LmbrJak]

If I knew the average amount of estrogen in an adult male age 24 (On and off androgens?) I would be able to increase or decrease my AI/SERM until I have an acceptable amount. Bloodwork will be needed of course. I dont remember what my estrogen was when I had it checked....

anyone else care to chime in? Hint hint........

An adult male, off 10-50 pg/ml.Dont know about on, but your test/est ratio should be extremely favorable for gains.

From what I gather you want to keep your estrogen just low enough to avoid sides.

[guest589745]

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