The Darkside

[skipp]

Well I'm 5'9", just cut down to 210lbs from 225 (priming ). Prob sitting aroun 10%bf, been training for 6 years, 4 years very serious, and 2 years since I've cracked down on the diet (this is when I gained the most). 21 yrs old.

Test E wk 2-13; 500mg (250x2)
Adex wk 1-17; 1g/day
Duta .1mg ALL thoughout (yes I'm balding w/no AAS @ 21)
HCG wk 10-15; 1000IU (500x2)

Not sure exactly on PCT yet.. I've narrowed it down to a few I'm choosing between.. Anthony Robert's is what I'm leaning towards..

Adex is included as you can see, Maybe I'll just use aromasin and nolva and clomid and clen. I've got all, but not sure what I think will work for me yet. One more Q, I know the letro needs to build up, is the same thing true for adex? Anyways, thanks for looking.

[Warrior]

Is the TE being frontloaded the first week or something... why do you say "wk 2-13" for that actual androgen posrtion of your cycle?

I would not do HCG for 5 weeks. I'd just take it one weekend mid cycle and then a few days after your last shot while waiting for the blood levels of testosterone to drop...

Too much Arimidex for 500mg/wk. You don't want to nuke estrogen - it does serve some benefit... such as positive effects on cholestrol values. Save some money and cut that dose down, at least half.

[skipp]

Well I say wk 2 because I'll start the adex before.. kinda just makes it look weird. Anyways, .5mg is fine, I just wanna keep the estro down bc I had some teen gyno. I homebrew so price isn't really a big deal.

What doses do you suggest for the HCG 250? 500? And what e3d for those 2 weeks before pct?

Thanks for your help.

[Warrior]

Start the T at week 1.

Start the Arimidex after week 4 - when plasma levels will peak and stabilize and estrogen could become a concern... don't worry though...

HCG @ 500IU on Sat/Sun mid cycle... and then for a few days, a couple of days after your last shot. Wait about 2 weeks after the last shot of TE - then start loading with some Clomid to recover your HPTA.

I'd shave the cycle down to 10 weeks to make recovery easier... no need to make it difficult early in the game

[skipp]

A big thanks! Definatly cleared some things up. Cheers!

[pumpd4lif]

i have had great results with low ed shots of hcg i will lay out my recent pct which felt seamless

7 days past last injection start hcg 250ui ed
continue for 7 days 7th day 500ui
all is good by 7th day of hcg boys back up to size
day
1. 300 mg clomid 20mg nolva 20 mcgs clen
2. 200 mg clomid 20 nolva 40 mcgs clen
3. 150 mg clomid 20 nolva 60 mcgs clen
4. 100mg clomid 20 nolva 80 mcgs clen(up 20mcgs ed till 120 mcgs ed
continue clomid nolva same dosage till 14th day of pct
then drop clomid, continue nolva for the reminder of my 30 day pct starting 1000ui vitamin E after drop clomid i am in the middle of my pct and i feel great 30 days past last injection of test still have good sex drive no ill moods fell great and i know everyone is different but u really dont need large amounts of hcg for it to be effective(not knockiing anyone)
this time so far my pct seems seamles.just thought i would share.

[skipp]

^^Thanks for the info pumpd, very useful. I've actually read about the vitaminE somewhere and figured it couldn't hurt pct. And my plan is to ramp the clen the week prior to pct that way I'm still fighting corisol.

Get any blood work done? or plan to? I'd be interested in the results if you did.

[pumpd4lif]

i would start the clen the same day u start ur pct bro u will get more outa it for u dont have to worry about cotisol rebound till the test leaves ur body(14 days)for the most part gl keep us posted

[pumpd4lif]

at the end of october i will get blood work done for i will be on cycle as of nov 2 and as of now everything is great as far as sexdrive mental state my pct went so smooth i cant hardly beleive it but i will let u know damn i cant wait till november

[skipp]

Well I still won't be at pct yet so post up the results when you get em.. thanks again