Best way to dose my tren

[JohnBall]

STATS: Age-27, height-5'10, weight 198lb, BF-13%

Current cycle:
week 1-6 30mg dbol ED
week 1-12 400mg Deca/week
week 7-12 Tren A ???????????
Week 4-16 Test E 500mg/week
Week 12-16 Winnie V 50mg/EOD
Week 14-18 cycle T3 and Clen
10mg ED Nolvadex
provirin on standby

PCT:
25MG Nolvadex ED 2 weeks
Clomid
HCG 2 weeks

I'm on week 6 right now and getting excited about the tren coming up. I've been told many different ways to dose it and this will be my first time using it. I'd like to have a good discussion about what may suite me best based on everyone's experience with it. I've been told by various people to take 75-100mg EOD, 50-75mg ED, and 100mg ED. Now for my size and being a first time user I know for a fact I don't want anything to do with 100mg ED. I would prefer to inject EOD if I can get great gains, but if getting the great gains from the tren like you all describe requires ED injections then I have no problem with it. I get good results from the winnie injecting EOD. Any thoughts on whether I should go with 50-75 EOD or 50-75 ED? Thanks in advance bro's.

[V_Vandetta]

STATS: Age-27, height-5'10, weight 198lb, BF-13%

Current cycle:
week 1-6 30mg dbol ED
week 1-12 400mg Deca/week
week 7-12 Tren A ???????????
Week 4-16 Test E 500mg/week
Week 12-16 Winnie V 50mg/EOD
Week 14-18 cycle T3 and Clen
10mg ED Nolvadex
provirin on standby

PCT:
25MG Nolvadex ED 2 weeks
Clomid
HCG 2 weeks

I'm on week 6 right now and getting excited about the tren coming up. I've been told many different ways to dose it and this will be my first time using it. I'd like to have a good discussion about what may suite me best based on everyone's experience with it. I've been told by various people to take 75-100mg EOD, 50-75mg ED, and 100mg ED. Now for my size and being a first time user I know for a fact I don't want anything to do with 100mg ED. I would prefer to inject EOD if I can get great gains, but if getting the great gains from the tren like you all describe requires ED injections then I have no problem with it. I get good results from the winnie injecting EOD. Any thoughts on whether I should go with 50-75 EOD or 50-75 ED? Thanks in advance bro's.

let me see if I get this right this is your first cycle ???????????

[SMAN12b]

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yes please answer ALL the questions in green below. I know you answered some , but please complete the rest.

with your stats, it seems like a rather LARGE cycle for a first or even other cycle.
if your goals are mass, and you are only 198 now, I would concentrate on DIET first before using all those compounds !!!!

[JohnBall]

Sorry bro, I shold have stated this is my 4th cycle.

1st cycle:
week 1-12 sus 250-150mg/week

2nd cycle:
week1-12 sus250 500mg/week
week 6-12 winnie 50mg/week

3rd cycle:
week 1-14 500mg/week sus 250
week 1-12 deca 300, 300/week

4th cycle you now know. Only knew substances are the dbol and the tren.

[JohnBall]

Diet, 3500-4000 calories of clean meat, protien shakes, good carbs and 1-2 gallons of water a day. I have alot of trouble eating that much but it's getting easier everday.

[SMAN12b]

three cycles under your belt and only 198. sorry but something is wrong here !!!!! not flamming you, but I am 5'10-11 adn was 220 before I got on cycle.

if you can't eat you can't grow with or without AAS
that still seems like a lot for a 4th cycle JMHO

[JohnBall]

Cool bro, I appreciate your input.

[V_Vandetta]

three cycles under your belt and only 198. sorry but something is wrong here !!!!! not flamming you, but I am 5'10-11 adn was 220 before I got on cycle.

if you can't eat you can't grow with or without AAS
that still seems like a lot for a 4th cycle JMHO

AGREE 100% with SMAN .. something is just a bit off here bro it would seem that you are uping your AAS thinking that it will increase you LBM gains when in fact your diet may be way off......... but IMO This does seem like a pretty big cycle for a forth with the weight gain thus far i would go back to the drawing board .... but since you already started ......... I say dose the tren @ 50mgED to see if you get sides if not I would still stick with 50MG ED

[JohnBall]

Nope, I don't think by adding compounds I will get better gains. I had great gains on the test only cycles and reached a peak of 215lbs before I left for a trip around the world a year and a half ago. I settled at 190 for most of the trip. I got back 3 months ago and returned to a strict diet and did alot of cardio to shed some body fat down. Dropped me down to 185lbs. 6 weeks ago I started with the dbol and took my first shot of test E on week 4. Iexpect this cycle to be a great leap for me as I don't have a big year and a half journey around the world coming up. I hardly worked out at all during my travels and was actually pleased that I never droped below 190. But you two are right. I did cycle way before I had reached my natural peak. Way before. I probably deserve to be flamed for that. But what is done is done bro's. I also am pretty sure this will be my last cycle ever. Thanks for the advice dudes. I was thinking 50mg ED was the way to go as well. I'm pushing for 230 on this one and then I'm all natty till I change my mind.

[guest589745]

Start at 50mg ED and work your way up to what you feel comfortable taking.

EOD you can get away with but yer safer with ED.

You can do it.

[JohnBall]

Thanks bro, I appreciate it.

[goalseeker]

Tren....ED....mmmmmmm