Primo and winny a waste of money??

[Tuna11]

Hey everybody, just signed on and posting first thread. I am just wonderig if primo and winny are pointless and not worth the time compared to other products. I have tried tried them both on seperate occasions and felt awesome and looked great while on them but once I went off the gains go away pretty quick. By reading some other threads these two arent getting any love. Whats a better option for some lean mass with very little water retention??

[hosam4ever]

so do u asking about stacking them together or telling us ur personla experience

[Tuna11]

I never stacked the two. Did them both at different times just to see which was better. Just wondering if they are pointless to do alone and if there is a better product to do instead. Such as a test??

[The_Canibal]

is primo a good ideea for the period between cycles? since it doesn't inhibit the HPTA????

[Random]

but once I went off the gains go away pretty quick.

Hmm, did you do proper PCT?? Primo is one of the steroids that allows users to retain most of their gains, primo creates smaller lean mass gains that are supposed to be easy to keep...

[hosam4ever]

test is more stronger than winny or primo but imho i conseder primo the safest among all aas & i know guys gained a very quality & permenant gains from only running primo cycles

[Tuna11]

To be honest I never did anything for PCT. That must be the problem then. Its all sort of new to me. Its great to have a site like this where you can ask questions and get answers. I'm not sure how these PCT's work but there is alot of info on here.

[Random]

To be honest I never did anything for PCT

Awful man, awful---not a flame...just make sure you do your research before starting anything new k...

[neverenuff21]

Yes you lost all gains cause you didnt do pct. Itll happen every time. Read up. lots of info here

[Tuna11]

thanks guys for the info.

[Random]

Tuna, sure man...if you decide to run primo again--which some users swear by (not many)....then 1000mg per wk is a minimum...

[Random]

Make sure you got a good source..that could get costly tho...

[Tuna11]

1000mg per week. Thats alot more than I was taking. 100mg every second day is what I was taking. So roughly 3-400mg per week. Obviously not enough. Thanks for the info man.

[G-1000]

primo and var would be a better choice.