My first cycle: Andropen 275 and dbol--suggestions

[embrace18]

Hello, I have been working out roughly 4 years now. I am 22, 6'2", and just around 210 lbs. I want to start my first steroid cycle with andropen 275 stacked with dianabol. Here is what my cycle will look like. Please let me know any suggestions, help, etc... Thanks!

Week: 1-6 Dianabol --25mg daily
Week: 1-11 Andropen 275-- 500mg per week(injecting on Monday/Thursday)

I would appreciate any help!!

[STEROIDZZ]

Many are going to say 1st cycle = only test but i believe a kickstarter is ok, but your dbol should be ran no longer then 5 wks , im only going to run dbol for 4 wks, its very harsh on the liver, so i suggest 4 or 5 wks max, and i would start out at 30mg ed divided into 3 doses throughout the day. Secondly, why do you want to run andropen ? because it has 5 esters? i think you should stick with a single ester such as test eth or cyp. Andropen is reported to be "VERY" painful, and you should shoot it i believe eod or e3d ( not too sure ) but its just like sustanon with an added ester, and people hit that eod and some ed. I think your getting yourself a little too deep on this one, and I hope you take my advice and stick with a single ester for your first cycle. What does your PCT look like ? do you have a anti- e for on cycle ?

[embrace18]

STEROIDZZ, thanks for the fast reply. I will lower the dianabol to 5 weeks instead of 6. I believe andropen 275 is more potent than the single ester? but then again, much more painful. Are my dosages pretty accurate for a 1st cycle with Andropen? I don't have a PCT yet, probably will just use clomid.

[donberry427]

My workout partner has been on a cycle of andropen and Primobol-100 for over 6 weeks now and he has gained 20 lbs so far. I know a alot of people that use and our main guy/friend Told my budd to do this cycle. Im thinking about doing this cycle also becuase it would be my first cycle also and seems like it works well... Whats this pain everyone is talking about with adropen? and will i see better gains or less health risks with just one test?

[STEROIDZZ]

Your welcome, but your not listening to what you "SHOULD" do, i was responding to the same situation on another thread people think more esters = better thats WRONG, single ester test would give you GREAT results with just 2 shots per week instead of the neccessary, 3 or so andropen will require, plus andropen has short esters in there like test prop, if you hit it 500mg a wk that means ur probably only doing 2 shots a week, and your not even going to benift from the test prop. This is why i advise to you strongly to rethink of wha tyour doing. As for your PCT your wrong again friend. clomid alone wont do the job for PCT, if you have researched which i highly doubt you have considering the cycle you want to do for your 1st, you would know if using clomid then nolva is needed for PCT, one alone isnt a very good idea...

BTW im not trying to be a dick but your not listening and not prepared for this cycle, maybe not prepared for any yet

[embrace18]

The real reason why I chose andropen 275 is because I have someone that can get it for me within a week. If I could get sustanon 250, I would do it in heartbeat, otherwise I would have to wait over 20 days for shipping. Sustanon and dianabol is an excellent cycle, so I thought andropen and dianabol would be a good cycle too, with the same or even better results.

[STEROIDZZ]

I see your not going to listen and your too anxious to listen and wait for the proper stuff to come in so its your choice on what you want to do. Ive had my stuff for a long time now and no rush into starting it, the key is to find a good cycle, and do it properly, including administrations and dosages, regaurdless of how long it takes for you to get your gear. Im not implying it isnt a good cycle, im implying your not ready for it, nor should you do this for your first cycle.. thats all... but good luck

[embrace18]

I really appreciate your help. I def. will reconsider doing this for my first cycle. Might just wait and take an ester by itself for my 1st cycle.

[JiGGaMaN]

my best advice would be not using andropen unless ed injecting

[JiGGaMaN]

oh yeah, and i wouldnt worry about running dbol @ 25mg up to 10 weeks...

[JiGGaMaN]

Your welcome, but your not listening to what you "SHOULD" do, i was responding to the same situation on another thread people think more esters = better thats WRONG, single ester test would give you GREAT results with just 2 shots per week instead of the neccessary, 3 or so andropen will require, plus andropen has short esters in there like test prop, if you hit it 500mg a wk that means ur probably only doing 2 shots a week, and your not even going to benift from the test prop. This is why i advise to you strongly to rethink of wha tyour doing. As for your PCT your wrong again friend. clomid alone wont do the job for PCT, if you have researched which i highly doubt you have considering the cycle you want to do for your 1st, you would know if using clomid then nolva is needed for PCT, one alone isnt a very good idea...

BTW im not trying to be a dick but your not listening and not prepared for this cycle, maybe not prepared for any yet

i logged onto this site like 10 minutes ago and read 5 posts from you that are completely assinine, your responses are so scrambled and jumping from point to point it doesnt even appear that you have read the entire question being posed. please lay off the meth when posting

[STEROIDZZ]

You might not understand it jigger but he obviously did sorry for the confusion, big damon