bridging

[rukus43]

While bridging from one cycle to the next (post-pct to beginning of next cycle) what is better to use (does not have to necessarily be either of these, if something works better):
dbol or
superdrol or
anadrol

I am assuming a maximum of 6 weeks bridging time.

[Jucinator2]

d-bol 10 mgs a day first thing in the morning so by the time night comes your d-bol is almost out of your system for the night while your body sleeps and makes its own hormones, worked for the guys in the 70's and today.

[rukus43]

that sounds like a good idea..any others?

[mkrulic]

d-bol 10 mgs a day first thing in the morning so by the time night comes your d-bol is almost out of your system for the night while your body sleeps and makes its own hormones, worked for the guys in the 70's and today.

can you get anything out of 10mg's

[IBdmfkr]

You'd bridgie/cruise with a low dosage of Testosterone, 75-125mg/wk will replace your natural levels.. So 150-200mg/wk of Test Cyp would work well but would keep you shutdown and possibly land you on HRT for life.

How old are you?

[rukus43]

I am 23 yrs old but I don't think I would want to bridge with test just because I would not want to be shut down for so long and like you said HRT for life aint no joke...

[V_Vandetta]

I am 23 yrs old but I don't think I would want to bridge with test just because I would not want to be shut down for so long and like you said HRT for life aint no joke...

why bridging is BAd I can tell you from personal experinace . staying on for long peroids of time is bad . once apon a time it was thought that bridgeing with a low healthy test level would keep the anabloic effetcs going .. and to a sertin degree It did with one mager down side SHUTTING YOUR NATTY TEST along with it makes for recovery so hard that its next to impossible to keep gains . Case in point one of my first LOng cycles was was 6 months long running a cycle with a bridge than into another cycle ... after a prolonged while the body responds .. and its not pretty .... with no sex drive . constent problems with back and neck problems cant sleep .... any way long story short ... when I came off not only did I loose a lagre amount of gains But even with a PCt of HCg clomid once I stopped the required doses .. My test dropped down to 0 and stayed there it took alomst 4 months for me to recover and to share a personal issue I damged My TEST production for good at the age of 28.... to this day with age it drops off .. now back than i lost 25% fuction and now I am at 65% fuction and before long bro I will be on HRT ... why I was a stupid ass


now there are ways to run long end cycles the right way which even so Is not advisble to most ... becasue now no matter what i am shut down 400mg of test or 4000mg dont matter . which makes PCT that much harder .. but after a while I worked through that ... But the best advice I can give when It comes to bridging Is dont ..... time off is key to taking your body to the next level .....

[BG]

why bridging is BAd I can tell you from personal experinace . staying on for long peroids of time is bad . once apon a time it was thought that bridgeing with a low healthy test level would keep the anabloic effetcs going .. and to a sertin degree It did with one mager down side SHUTTING YOUR NATTY TEST along with it makes for recovery so hard that its next to impossible to keep gains . Case in point one of my first LOng cycles was was 6 months long running a cycle with a bridge than into another cycle ... after a prolonged while the body responds .. and its not pretty .... with no sex drive . constent problems with back and neck problems cant sleep .... any way long story short ... when I came off not only did I loose a lagre amount of gains But even with a PCt of HCg clomid once I stopped the required doses .. My test dropped down to 0 and stayed there it took alomst 4 months for me to recover and to share a personal issue I damged My TEST production for good at the age of 28.... to this day with age it drops off .. now back than i lost 25% fuction and now I am at 65% fuction and before long bro I will be on HRT ... why I was a stupid ass


now there are ways to run long end cycles the right way which even so Is not advisble to most ... becasue now no matter what i am shut down 400mg of test or 4000mg dont matter . which makes PCT that much harder .. but after a while I worked through that ... But the best advice I can give when It comes to bridging Is dont ..... time off is key to taking your body to the next level .....

Sound advice.

[IBdmfkr]

I am 23 yrs old but I don't think I would want to bridge with test just because I would not want to be shut down for so long and like you said HRT for life aint no joke...

You act as if 10mg of Dbol won't keep you shutdown just as much as a low replacement dosage of test.. Wrong.

You're young, there is no way around it you must come off to recover your natural levels.. I'd suggest doing so.

[BG]

You act as if 10mg of Dbol won't keep you shutdown just as much as a low replacement dosage of test.. Wrong.

You're young, there is no way around it you must come off to recover your natural levels.. I'd suggest doing so.

GH would work as a bridge but he's too young for that. As I**mfr said d-bol is a horrible idea, when I used that in my younger days it shut me down harder the any other AAS to date. As stated above you need to come off completely, dont worry so much at your age. You'll be big enough soon enough. If your still devoted to bodybuilding in your 30's then bridging will be an option then.

[Swifto]

There's the whole subject of bridging with one of the less suppresive androgens which only inhibit the HPTA and dont exibit complete shutdown. Which is an intresting one.

[BG]

There's the whole subject of bridging with one of the less suppresive androgens which only inhibit the HPTA and dont exibit complete shutdown. Which is an intresting one.

I was thinking of bridging awhile back with Methandriol DiPropioante but opted for TRT in the end.

[V_Vandetta]

GH would work as a bridge but he's too young for that. As I**mfr said d-bol is a horrible idea, when I used that in my younger days it shut me down harder the any other AAS to date. As stated above you need to come off completely, dont worry so much at your age. You'll be big enough soon enough. If your still devoted to bodybuilding in your 30's then bridging will be an option then.

both points are so very true GH is one trick to long cycles and even then you run AAS along with it.. BUt IMO is a very tricky thing and any long cycle can And will shut you down long term and cause damage

There's the whole subject of bridging with one of the less suppresive androgens which only inhibit the HPTA and dont exibit complete shutdown. Which is an intresting one..

also even if you use suppresive androgens at one point to bridge you will be hitting a stronger compound and even if you supress HPTA none the less it is supressed than add a much harder copound still shut down .... but it one of them things ... what one might use as a suppresive androgen might only inhibit but another will shut down ... So in all best interests time off is key to maintain HPTA function becasue no amount of muscle is worth the risk of the bodies test fuctions

[Swifto]

I mean. Can one resume LH/FSH/T output after using suppressive andorgens, like Testosterone, Deca, Tren, when using less suppressive androgens like Primo, Tbol, Dbol, Winstrol. Its a very grey area. I'm going to try to find this out next cycle and get bloodwork done at the right time.

[BG]

I mean. Can one resume LH/FSH/T output after using suppressive andorgens, like Testosterone, Deca, Tren, when using less suppressive androgens like Primo, Tbol, Dbol, Winstrol. Its a very grey area. I'm going to try to find this out next cycle and get bloodwork done at the right time.

I doubt it will resume naturally, once shut down it "probably" doesnt take much to keep it down. Are going to do this through blood work? Over how long of a period of time?

[Tommy Boy]

At my age, 50, and being on TRT there is no reason to come OFF cycle like I have been doing for the last 2 1/2 months.

I'm such a dumbass!
I did PCT and have been feeling like shit. All my lifts are down.

FINALLY I went to see my urologist who has me on TRT. He told me there was no reason to come off test, as long as BP and bloodwork were OK.

I wanted to see if my natty test would come back after a year of low dose TRT. Well it did, but still only to 308.

Mystery solved...I lost 30% of my strength gains since Aug.1. NO SHIT SHERLOCK. So no more PCT. My nuts are toast without Test.
TESTES TOAST!

Just bloodwork every 3 to 6 months. I don't know if I'm happy or sad.... NOT!


LOCK AND LOAD !!!

[Swifto]

I doubt it will resume naturally, once shut down it "probably" doesnt take much to keep it down. Are going to do this through blood work? Over how long of a period of time?

Well this is where no one really knows. No one had a definitive answer on M&M either so I think it will be intresting.

I'm planning on:

wk 1-10 Dbol 20-30mg/ED OR Tbol 60-80mg/ED
wk 1-8 Test Prop 50mg/ED
wk 1-12 Primo 600-800mg/wk
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED

Bloodwork at week 5 to see how my liver values are, after the Dbol.

Bloodwork week 11 to see if any hormone output has been resumed.

Should be intresting.

Not sure if I should use HCG yet as it may be cheating!

[V_Vandetta]

Well this is where no one really knows. No one had a definitive answer on M&M either so I think it will be intresting.

I'm planning on:

wk 1-10 Dbol 20-30mg/ED OR Tbol 60-80mg/ED
wk 1-8 Test Prop 50mg/ED
wk 1-12 Primo 600-800mg/wk
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED

Bloodwork at week 5 to see how my liver values are, after the Dbol.

Bloodwork week 11 to see if any hormone output has been resumed.

Should be intresting.

Not sure if I should use HCG yet as it may be cheating!

swift keep us posted I like to see how this plays out .. becasue I myself have tryed the low end compounds like winny primo.. and did test low on the blood work and Once got blood work after a run with HCG and that did sway the blood work ... but really bro I like to see how this works for you

[Swifto]

swift keep us posted I like to see how this plays out .. becasue I myself have tryed the low end compounds like winny primo.. and did test low on the blood work and Once got blood work after a run with HCG and that did sway the blood work ... but really bro I like to see how this works for you

I'll be posting results when it happens. Not till around Jan 07 though.

[V_Vandetta]

I'll be posting results when it happens. Not till around Jan 07 though.

Cool bro god willing i will be here... baby not due till may LOL

[Swifto]

LOL

Lets hope so...

[vitor]

I myself have tryed the low end compounds like winny primo.. and did test low on the blood work

Ofcourse you would test low on the BW(from using Primo/winny), but maybe you wasnt completely shut-down?

Did you run Test first(then stop it) and finnished up with Primo/winny and had BW.

[V_Vandetta]

Ofcourse you would test low on the BW(from using Primo/winny), but maybe you wasnt completely shut-down?

Did you run Test first(then stop it) and finnished up with Primo/winny and had BW.

not together used as a single compound bridge between cycles

[marcus300]

I wouldnt consider doing any kind of bridging at your age, you have the ability to fully recover so i would do that then have good time of and start fresh, but if you are competing at a high level bridging will have to be an option

[Swifto]

I wouldnt consider doing any kind of bridging at your age, you have the ability to fully recover so i would do that then have good time of and start fresh, but if you are competing at a high level bridging will have to be an option

I totally agree. This is purely an experiment on my part. I want to see if my T levels rise after stopping a supressive androgen (Test Prop), whilst running a less suppressive one (Primo or Dbol). Aslong as the pituitary isnt totally "shutdown", bridging may become a reality for me. But, we'll see.

[vitor]

I totally agree. This is purely an experiment on my part. I want to see if my T levels rise after stopping a supressive androgen (Test Prop), whilst running a less suppressive one (Primo or Dbol). Aslong as the pituitary isnt totally "shutdown", bridging may become a reality for me. But, we'll see.

I woundt call this bridging, unless you plan on using the Primo/d-bol until you start another cycle?

[Swifto]

I woundt call this bridging, unless you plan on using the Primo/d-bol until you start another cycle?

I'll see what works for me. Then I'll go from there in future cycles.

[doittoit]

it depends on your goals....i chose staying on (200-500mg test)because I compete, and I psycholgically/physically don't want that yo-yo effect. Once I can afford to run hgh year round I will be bridging with that and slin.

[gymrocken]

use something like turanabol. no androgens in it. 100% anabolic

[vitor]

use something like turanabol. no androgens in it. 100% anabolic

Impossible!!

All steroids are androgens...