Been thinking on and off for 2 years about doing a cycle.
Is there anybody here who did one cycle with the intentions of “this will be the only one,” then to do more and more? How addictive do you think roids are?
Thanks for your reply!
Been thinking on and off for 2 years about doing a cycle.
Is there anybody here who did one cycle with the intentions of “this will be the only one,” then to do more and more? How addictive do you think roids are?
Thanks for your reply!
Many say its their last. Usually isnt.
Originally Posted by Swifto
Yep yep.
Never truely satisfied after how many you do.
copy of first--edited
I think its like any other drug.. You can get addicted as stated above.
Sounds pretty addictive? Do you think it’s more physical or mental
Very addicted mentally not physically
arghhh...i got hooked....![]()
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Originally Posted by gsxxr
True...same as gambling,some ppl are adicted to gambling.
LPR.
Thank this makes me very hesitant to try it.
It's a game, your either in or out.
editing for clarity: I don't think aas is like trying pot or something, I believe it is something to be worked with researched and defined for yourself to achieve a goal![]()
Last edited by bazerk; 10-12-2006 at 12:46 PM.
People become addicted to the rapid gains in strength/muscle mass. Not to forget the physcological changes, like making you feel more confident (Testosterone forms).
it can really suck when u come off a cycle, which could easily encourage one to start one up again.
AA's are all mental man, just like any other drug, i used to smoke pot for many years and just said f it one day and stoped and havent done it since, probably been over 3 years now. I think its depends on the person if you have strong will power or not. But yes Aa's can be addicting, but then again so can any drug
Yea I smoked pot for 10 years 24/7 all I wanted to do was sit on couch, I quit so I could get more things done in life, it’s been over 5 years now since I quit. So I have a strong will power.
I guess what I really fear is loosing my hair. I think I may just go with a SD cycle, but still undecided
Thanks for all the replys.
Chad
SD should be considered a steriod/pro hormone u need a proper pct for that!Originally Posted by Chad B
Bad call, imho. prohormones (if that is what you're refering to) suck. all sides w/ little gains. do steroids or dont but dont fool w/ that prohormone crap.Originally Posted by Chad B
Originally Posted by mkrulic
Supedrol is NOT a prohormone. It is an actual oral steroid. A very potent oral. It needs proper PCT protocol and should only be run up to 4 weeks at a time. It can also cause a serious rise in prolactin levels, if one is sensitive to that kind of thing. Nolva probably should not be used as an anit-e/PCT protocol with SD because Nolva can actually increase the chances of prolactin/lactation problems. I would advise using Aromasin or Clomid. Aromasin would be my first choice with SD or Pheraplex.
But to get back to topic... I think steroids can have some mild addictive properties. However, I don't think they are generally "physically addictive" like many rec drugs can be.
Last edited by Teegunn; 10-14-2006 at 03:53 AM.
It is NOT addictive!! I can stop anytime I want to......LOLOLOLOL
**inserts needle and sigh of relief**
Im sure its easier to stop when something goes seriously wrong; ie. bad infection, terrible gyno, busted by the police, etc...
It's not that it's addicting. You will like the way you feel and the gains you make while on and want to do more cycles. I wouldn't call that an addiction.Originally Posted by Chad B
Muscle Asylum Project Athlete
OK, the rec drug references need to stop. You can have this discussion without referencing smoking.
Muscle Asylum Project Athlete
I define an "addiction" as something that your body actually depends on to function. Alcohol and Hero*n are culprits.
So, no, AS doesnt fall in that category. Their phycologically "addictive" due to their results/actions/effects on the user.
As carlos and swift said its not addicting bro...what you do get addicted at is the hunger for more ways to get bigger and stronger...or in many cases to alter and enhance your body...thats where you'll have to keep your composure.
I didn't think it was the drug that was addictive but the gains and change you make that is addictive?
Ahh, Carlos and Swift beat me to it.
There are some overlooked components here.![]()
Let's use Swift's model and more accurately define it, after which classification becomes far more simple.
Addiction is a compulsive need for and use of a habit-forming substance (such as the aforementioned heroin and alcohol examples), but also activities (i.e. gambling, sex, shopping, eating, pornography, etc.) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined symptoms (often physiological with drugs) upon withdrawal.
It is also important to note that the substance/activity (whether known or unknown by the user) is harmful in some way. Without harm, the term addiction is inappropriate. It necessarily causes at best stress, and at worse distress in some area of your life (physically/physiologically, mentally/emotionally, financially, socially, etc.).
LOSS IS IMPERATIVE.
One can claim to be addicted to chocolate, but unless the inability to stop is causing unwanted or unhealthy weight gain, acne, dry skin, etc., it’s just something you like a lot (i.e. sex, money, rock & roll). All of which can become addictive.
Now do steroids really fit here?![]()
Possibly, but that depends on the presence of loss, and/or withdrawal.
M.
A fu*kin MEN!!Originally Posted by magic32
Excellent post. I agree 100 percent.Originally Posted by magic32
I'm a model!
I've gotten all flustered Majic...
People often develop a psychological dependance to steroids. If you have an addictive or obsessive personality it is likely you are going to depend on them for confidence, self asteem e.t.c. When comming off a cycle, people loose the euphoria feelings that you can get and they forget how they should feel naturally and how they always felt before starting. The contrast can be overwhelming mentally. With an inability to resist the urge, they jump straight back on again. Thats when the real cycle begins. I believe there are just as many cases with men addicted to ass as there are women getting addicted to cosmetic surgery, botox e.t.c
Originally Posted by frank12391
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I hate pins but i like to poke, its hard to explain, but its hard to just quit
I did my last shot of what was gonna be a 16 weeker but made it 14 instead on mon now i still have 1/2 a vial of enan left, and its hard as fvck to not pick it up and do it, i want to finish it off but i know i should not be running it any longer gonna get blood work in the morning.. This sucks i dont want to stop !!!!!!!
yeah i done my first cycle nearlly 2 months ago and i said that was it. but no i want more lol thats why i'm waiting for my order to come through....
How addicting are steroids???.....bout as addicting as bodybuilding....you can quit any time you like...but who the hell wants to???
steroids aren't addictive, only bill o riely thinks that...Originally Posted by Chad B
Yep, they sure are addictive. I remember telling myself "I'll just do them once or twice" that was about 12 cycles ago. There is no ONE cycle thats going to make you look bigger years from now than you would have training naturally and eating right. Now once your into it for awhile and have a few under your belt then yeah, you might. But how bad are they if used properly? IMO I dont think they are as bad as the hype makes them out to be. The most important thing is time on=time off, even I'm guilty of ignoring that from time to time. But in the long run, your body will thank you and your gains will be even better as your receptors will be clean and they'll hit your system even harder. I will say this though bro, every cycle for me seems to get harder and harder to take time off. The longest break I've taken within the past 3 years is about 12 weeks, most of the time as soon as PCT is over w/ I'm right back on.
If you enjoy lifting weights you'll enjoy steroids. Its hard to stop doing something you enjoy.
as far as it being "addictive", though many others i think have given great explanations, here is the problem with doing just one cycle...
you take a cycle to get larger, go beyond your genetic limits, or for those taking it for the wrong reasons, you're simply too lazy to do your research and train/eat/sleep right and want gear to compensate for that. regardless of a persons reason for a cycle, their thoughts at that point are oftentimes "oh, i can just take a cycle, get bigger, and then stop using them and just stay that size". therein lies the problem.
once coming off a cycle, it becomes increasingly difficult over those next several months to maintain the gains you made from a cycle. reason being your body simply doesn't have those extra hormones it did while on the cycle. hence, it will eventually revert back to it's genetic limits. this can happen over several months or maybe even a year, but eventually it will happen.
i don't care what steroid info site or book tells you how much of the gains you can expect to keep from a particular steroid. IMO, you can keep gains from any kind of gear, but only for so long before having to do another cycle again.
lemme tell you what sucks. come off a cycle and get sick and lose some of your muscle cause of a cold/flu/stomach virus/etc, and you're not getting that muscle back. i had that happen to me pretty much a month after i came off a cycle and i had lost almost 1/2 of what i gained while i was on the cycle cause i was throwing up for almost an entire day and could barely stomach anything for the next two. again as i already stated, without the gear your body can't gain that mass back. now, you know you'll eventually get sick after your cycle, so you know where i'm going with this.
now, as far as it being "addictive", you have to determine that based off of your definition of addiction. however, if you find steroids to be addictive, you'd have to find weightlifting addictive as well, cause they're both utilized for the same goal which is for size/strength. IMO steroids aren't addictive. when you see what you can achieve when they're used, you don't become addicted. you become enlightened.![]()
to me, an addiction is something you become hooked on to avoid reality, avoid stress, or simply crave so much you just have to have it. steroids don't fall even close to any of those categories. steroids are simply a means to achieve the physique we'd all like to but genetics simply prevents us from achieving. i say f*ck genetics, break the barriers, and juice on!!!
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