Deca only this time, ways to get around deca dick?

[TinTin78]

Yes, I did a Deca Test cycle, pretty satisfied with the muscles but not what it did to the hair so no more test for me. I still have alot of hair, but it was to much to take any chances again.

So I will go with a deca only cycle and risk depression and bad libido, what I wonder now is what I can do to prevent it. I was thinking of HCG througout the cycle or maybe at the end, what do you guys think?

Some say you can use Clomid the whole cycle and prevent it alot, and after I was planning to do a regular agressive Pct with Nolva/clomid, should I use som Arimidex in the pct, heard some say you should not use it in pct?

[vitor]

Cabergoline will help alot on a Deca only run. Nadrolone will increase prolactin levels and and high prolactin levels will kill libido. Caber will atleast solve problems from that angle.

Defently use Arimidex in Pct. An aromatase inhibitor is far more effective for increasing your testosterone levels than a Serm is. Use them both(serm+AI, in Pct.) I see no benefit with using clomid(or nolva) if deca is used alone, estrogen levels will actually decrease even though nadrolone aromatase slightly, b/c you will have shut down testosterone so it wont convert to estrogen.

To be honest, I dont think libido will drop that much on cycle(even on a deca only if caber is used), its when you are trying to recover from deca that it turns its ugly head on you...

[TinTin78]

So you say I will only need to use Arimidex? What about HCG during or 3 weeks before I get off?

And what's this about deca that is so hard to recover from, because of shutdown test levels you may feel more latargic and depressed longer? Is it so bad that you may stop going to the gym and loose all it gives you in mass?

[TinTin78]

And also I will only do 8 weeks because in my last cycle everything kinda stopped at week 7-8 and then I just gained a little more the last 4 weeks so I will stay at 8 weeks. I rather recover faster and do one more cycle than burnout totally.

[vitor]

So you say I will only need to use Arimidex? What about HCG during or 3 weeks before I get off?

And what's this about deca that is so hard to recover from, because of shutdown test levels you may feel more latargic and depressed longer? Is it so bad that you may stop going to the gym and loose all it gives you in mass?

I said Arimidex+an serm in pct(clomid or nolva). Many ways to use Hcg, I would personally run it in the last week of the cycle and stop it b/f Pct.

Nadrolone have metabolites that can stay in your system and supress you for quite a while. Nadrolone is harder to recover from than other steroids imo. Keeping gains depends if you do the right things as far as training, diet, livestyle and pct.

Taking deca alone is not the best idea, but atleast it wont hurt your hair...

[TinTin78]

I just think my body really loves deca because I have had nice gains from it, but I have also gotten depressed by it. It's a chance I am willing to take, rather be depressed for 2-3 months and keep my hair than being depressed for years to come because you lost something you really wanted to keep.

I know you eventually loose it anyway, but I rather look like a 28 years old now than a 50 year old bald man. It's more ok for me if I loose my hair when it is time about 20 or so years from now than loosing it in a couple of years because of stupid test.

[ascendant]

well, personally i just cant condone a cycle without a test base. however, i would like to help in whatever way i can here. now, have you ever thought about simply taking the meds that prevent hair loss while on the cycle? can't remember the name of it, but i know the hair loss is caused by the dht and there's a med you can get that prevents it. i'm sure someone else can help me with what it is.

[TinTin78]

Dutasteride, finasteride, proscar or propecia, I know all of that, but I don't know, maybe that is better, but then I have to make it a testo only cycle and I really want the deca. And from what I read, if I take EQ I can use proscar but it wont help with the hairloss from EQ which there is.

[vitor]

Taking testosterone only with dutasteride+nizoral shampo woudnt be to bad on your hair.

Testosterone will atleast build 2-times as much muscle as deca per mg...

[TinTin78]

Taking testosterone only with dutasteride+nizoral shampo woudnt be to bad on your hair.

Testosterone will atleast build 2-times as much muscle as deca per mg...

yes but the thing is you loose alot from the test, and keep most from the deca. At least that is my experience, and from what I have heard, if you survive the latargic period that is.

[TinTin78]

By the way, I have cabaser at home, I think it's the same substance as cabergoline. Should I use that throughout the cycle or start a couple of weeks in?

[Hellmaskbanned]

Run proviron with it the entire time.

What dosage are you going to run...600mgs?

[TinTin78]

That's the thing, Proviron is also hard on the hair so I will probably avoid that to. But I might reconsider it, I ran proviron before and I did not know if hairloss were from Proviron, Test, or just hormone inbalance from all the different meds, like hcg, Nolva, Letro. It's alot of shit for the body to react to and it might have been stress also and hormone inbalance. Because I lost mainly hair between week 3-7 and then it stopped and then it took speed again after pct wich is weird. That can explain if it's the body reacting to the meds going in and out of your body.

I will run 400mg each week, I ran that before with 500mg test, and it ended in the beginning of april. Do you think it's to soon to run a cycle with deca again, and should I keep the same amount or increase?

[Hellmaskbanned]

That's the thing, Proviron is also hard on the hair so I will probably avoid that to. But I might reconsider it, I ran proviron before and I did not know if hairloss were from Proviron, Test, or just hormone inbalance from all the different meds, like hcg, Nolva, Letro. It's alot of shit for the body to react to and it might have been stress also and hormone inbalance. Because I lost mainly hair between week 3-7 and then it stopped and then it took speed again after pct wich is weird. That can explain if it's the body reacting to the meds going in and out of your body.

I will run 400mg each week, I ran that before with 500mg test, and it ended in the beginning of april. Do you think it's to soon to run a cycle with deca again, and should I keep the same amount or increase?

Increase to 600mgs.
I've ran deca alone in the past with 0 problems.
Some are prone to deca dick some arent....jut like with hairloss imo.

[TinTin78]

haha, like your avatar... Suits fine here, doesn't it.

So 600mg, is it a bigger chance of getting progestrine gyno with that 200mg increase?

[Hellmaskbanned]

haha, like your avatar... Suits fine here, doesn't it.

So 600mg, is it a bigger chance of getting progestrine gyno with that 200mg increase?

If you've ran it in the past without getting gyno, 200mg increase won't make that big of a difference IMo.

[TinTin78]

ok, thx for the input hellmask, nice to hear someone not whining about decadick. How were your gains by the way with the deca only?

[Hellmaskbanned]

ok, thx for the input hellmask, nice to hear someone not whining about decadick. How were your gains by the way with the deca only?

They were going well until I injured myself and had to stop the cycle earlier than I wanted to.

[TinTin78]

Well I have nothing to loose, and If I feel to bad on it I can just stop, nothing lost then. Now I can't wait to get this stuff into my muscles, I really love the deca feel, nice and comfy.

[fitguy]

Well I have nothing to loose, and If I feel to bad on it I can just stop, nothing lost then. Now I can't wait to get this stuff into my muscles, I really love the deca feel, nice and comfy.

keep me updated bro cause i was thinking to run a deca only to avoid hairloss.

[powerbodybuilder]

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