first tren cycle

[dober20]

age 23
weight 230
bf% 16-18
training for 3 years hard
i am going to start with
prop 100mg eod 1-10
tren a 75mg eod 1-8
tbol 50mg qd 1-6
winni 50mg eod 6-10.
i might change to everyday i am going to see how i respond to eod. letrozole .25-.5 mg 1-10, hcg 250iu every 4 days, then finish pct with clomid and nolva. calories are going to be cut down.
how does this sound any thing else i should do or not do?

[Smedman101]

First tren...How many cycles have you completed?

[MAXIMA5]

First of all, inject daily.

Second of all, I would save the HCg for the close of the cycle, rather than run it continuously.

[dober20]

this is my 4th cycle. so i will try running it ed. i can get hcg pretty easy. so i shouldnt run it through the whole cycle?
1st & 2nd cycle dbol eq
3rd cycle dbol sus deca slin i was also going to take t3 1-10

[MAXIMA5]

I usually start HCG the week after the half way point.

example
14 week cycle - I start HCG in moderate doses at week 8 and run up to PCT. Maybe even wait until week 10 and run the last 4 weeks.

[V_Vandetta]

Let me just add.... that HCG can cause GYno if ran for prolonged lengths .. ideal HCG shuld be run 7-10 days .. Now yes mid cycle can be an ideal time to run Hcg @ 250-500iu 3 X a week for 2 weeks ... But IMO that would be it

[MAXIMA5]

it usually comes in 5000 iu's, and 5000 ius is too much to use in a 10 day period. This is probably why most people prolong use for a few weeks.
Using it full cycle is overkill, and as V said, may cause gyno.

[Apollo 13]

Let me just add.... that HCG can cause GYno if ran for prolonged lengths .. ideal HCG shuld be run 7-10 days .. Now yes mid cycle can be an ideal time to run Hcg @ 250-500iu 3 X a week for 2 weeks ... But IMO that would be it

so you can run it mid cycle at that dosage for 2 weeks, and when PCT comes up do the same? Im so confused about HCG and I don't want to get gyno.

[V_Vandetta]

so you can run it mid cycle at that dosage for 2 weeks, and when PCT comes up do the same? Im so confused about HCG and I don't want to get gyno.

look at it like this bro ...... hcg pct 7-10days 250-500iu and mid cycle 250-500iu M-W-F for 2 weeks should be fine with the compounds you are running .. you have to base it when you start to show signs of shutdown it will help with making your (balls ) nice and full ... you just dont want to over kill ..also time your HCG right with Pct when useing short estors or long with your cycle being short estors this is how i would run it

prop 100mg ED1-10
tren a 50mg ED1-10
tbol 50mg ED 1-6
winny 50mg Ed 5-10

start pct week 11 ................also use an AI like adex

[goalseeker]

Dont know if your ready for Tren on your 4th cycle, but, it should be run ED... trust me...

[V_Vandetta]

Dont know if your ready for Tren on your 4th cycle, but, it should be run ED... trust me...

OPPS GOOD CALL I missed that tren prop ED

[goalseeker]

and start with 75 and monitor it. everyone is different... me for example, I didnt get much out of 75ed, 3 runs with Tren and now Im up too 150ed. this is best for me...
But start yours out SLOWLY.. Its a harsh and strong compound...In between bloodwork and checkups, watch the color of your urine. If it starts to get dark, time to end the Tren.........

[dober20]

i am going to run letro 1-10 and t3, i will do the hcg like you advised. i have been reading alot on tren and i want to try it i know i dont have alot of expirience but if i just closely monitior myself i think i will be aright.

[dober20]

so for pct start week 11 run hcg for 7-10 days, start nolva and clomid week 13 for 2weeks.