a lean mass cycle

**eradikate** · 06-30-2002, 12:19 AM

sup bros. im 5'9" 170lbs 9%body fat, and have done 1 cycle so far. im looking to collect gear for my 2nd cycle right now and this time im looking to gain some lean mass about 10-15lbs. In order to reach my goal i have set up a cycle, i want your bros comments on it!
wk1-4 QV test prop 100mg/eod or dbol 40mg/ed
wk1-10 QV test enanthate 500mg/wk
wk1-10 TT EQ 400mg/wk
wk7-12 Winny 50mg/ed

What do you bros think?

**eradikate** · 06-30-2002, 09:53 AM

bump

**Iron horse** · 06-30-2002, 09:56 AM

have you considered adding primo or fina?

if you can find primo at a good price I'd use it

G-S · 06-30-2002, 09:57 AM

Enanthate will make you hold excess water. I'd go with a shorter ester test than that for lean mass that you can keep. I'd also add Fina in.

**FLORIDA GATOR** · 06-30-2002, 09:59 AM

LOOKS GOOD YOU COULD EVEN BUMP UP THE EQ TO 600MG

**Iron horse** · 06-30-2002, 10:07 AM

if you want to keep the test, run liquidex. Eq will make you hold a LITTLE bit of water as well.

**eradikate** · 06-30-2002, 10:19 AM

i would love to do fina but i have no excess to fina. how would you bros run a cycle if you wanted to lose some fat and gain 10-15lb of lean mass? lets hear it!

**BELLICOSE** · 06-30-2002, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by eradikate
how would you bros run a cycle if you wanted to lose some fat and gain 10-15lb of lean mass? lets hear it!

I'd use fina!!! and some prop and eq

**Iron horse** · 06-30-2002, 11:29 AM

you can get fina pellets legaly off the net!

**eradikate** · 06-30-2002, 11:47 AM

you got pm iron horse!

How is this cycle?
Fina 75mg/ed wk1-8
EQ 400mg/wk wk1-12
winny 50mg/ed wk9-14
ALA 1000mg/ed wk9-16
Clomid 2 days after winny.
Gallon of water a day!
I have liquidex left but im getting some nolvadex also.

**eradikate** · 06-30-2002, 12:06 PM

bump

**Iron horse** · 06-30-2002, 12:18 PM

you got a PM bro!

**eradikate** · 06-30-2002, 12:36 PM

you da man ironhorse! you helped me out on my first cycle also! you a good man! so what do you think of my cycle i posted up?
Fina 75mg/ed wk1-8
EQ 400mg/wk wk1-12
winny 50mg/wk wk9-14

G-S · 06-30-2002, 02:19 PM

You need some test in there bro. Fina dick might get ya.

**Tsunami** · 06-30-2002, 06:53 PM

Shouldn't he be ending the winny 3 weeks after the eq?

So in other words, start the winny a week later or drop a week off of the eq.

**eradikate** · 06-30-2002, 07:23 PM

sup bros. i came to a decision on my next cycle.
Test enanthate 500mg/wk1-10
EQ 400mg/wk1-10
fina 75mg/ed wk1-7
winny 50mg/ed wk8-13
test prop 100mg/eod wk10-13
thanx to iron horse!

**eradikate** · 06-30-2002, 07:27 PM

holy shit!! i realize how many times i gotta stab myself!

**Tsunami** · 06-30-2002, 08:36 PM

Cycle looks good man, see you made the switch on the winny thingy I mentioned.

Good Luck on the cycle!

**Luke** · 06-30-2002, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by eradikate
you got pm iron horse!
How is this cycle?
Fina 75mg/ed wk1-8
EQ 400mg/wk wk1-12
winny 50mg/ed wk9-14
ALA 1000mg/ed wk9-16
Clomid 2 days after winny.
Gallon of water a day!
I have liquidex left but im getting some nolvadex also.

IF you have Liquidex, no point of using Nolvadex.
A gallon of water with 75mg/ed will most likely not be enough to flush out the kidneys. Also, I would not run Fina for such a long time, but that's just my opinion. I run it at 75mg EOD for 6 weeks and I was getting a lot of kidney pain.

**Luke** · 06-30-2002, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by YoUnG1
Shouldn't he be ending the winny 3 weeks after the eq?

So in other words, start the winny a week later or drop a week off of the eq.

YEs, I think Clomid should come 3 weeks after last EQ shot.

G-S · 06-30-2002, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by Luke

IF you have Liquidex, no point of using Nolvadex.

Wrong brother. Liquidex only blocks the receptors, it wont make gyno go away - Nolvadex will.

**Iron horse** · 06-30-2002, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by eradikate
sup bros. i came to a decision on my next cycle.
Test enanthate 500mg/wk1-10
EQ 400mg/wk1-10
fina 75mg/ed wk1-7
winny 50mg/ed wk8-13
test prop 100mg/eod wk10-13
thanx to iron horse!

glad to help, and remember if possible run some liquidex!

**Luke** · 06-30-2002, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by Gettin Stupid

Wrong brother. Liquidex only blocks the receptors, it wont make gyno go away - Nolvadex will.

Liquidex is Arimidex, right? Then Armidiex prevents estrogen caused gyno by blocking the eromatase. As to other types of gyno, Nolvadex will not prevent it (e.g. Fina caused gyno). Why not just take Nolvadex when gyno symptoms start occuring? Plus with Armidex at .5mg/day there should be no gyno, imo. Unless of course the gyno is already evident, then I would do Nolvadex before starting new cycle.

**eradikate** · 07-09-2002, 10:25 PM

i dunno if i have gyno. my nipples dont look puffy at all. so fina is too long you say? you see i wanan shed body fat on this cycle and gain 15lbs of lean mass, which is lowcal/high protein diet correct? and of course cardio 3-5x a week in the morning for 45 mins. i think im going to cut out the fina since this is my only 2nd cycle and i wanna save the fina for later. so i was thinking maybe...
Dbol 40mg/ed wk1-4
Test enanthate 500mg/wk1-13
EQ 400mg/wk1-12
winny 50mg/ed wk10-15
i've only done a bulk cycle so im kinda newbie at lean mass cycles. help input! i put the dbol there just to kick start the cycle. i know it's gonna bloat me up like crazy. should i do cardio on dbols also? and keep the cals low? or should i keep the cals high and cardio out till the dbol ends than start dieting down?

**eradikate** · 07-09-2002, 10:49 PM

bump

**eradikate** · 07-09-2002, 10:58 PM

bump!

**canadian_mofo** · 07-09-2002, 11:43 PM

Something im thinking of running for lean mass is this... it'd be my first cycle, researched it lots and everyone thinks it'd be a good one for me, and i should be able to put on at least 15lbs with it and stay shredded. Fina of course would be great to add to this but as a first cycle im gonna stay away from it. Might be planning to do this next may after bulking up to hopefully 250+.

Virormone test prop 150mg EOD weeks 1 - 6
Ganabol EQ 100mg EOD for 50 days
Winny 50mg ED weeks 7 - 10

**eradikate** · 07-10-2002, 01:11 PM

i wanted to shed some body fat but still gain pounds.

**AZlifter** · 07-10-2002, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by eradikate
sup bros. i came to a decision on my next cycle.
Test enanthate 500mg/wk1-10
EQ 400mg/wk1-10
fina 75mg/ed wk1-7
winny 50mg/ed wk8-13
test prop 100mg/eod wk10-13
thanx to iron horse!

Weeks 1-3 Prop 100mg/EOD
Weeks 1-10 EQ 400mg
Weeks 1-10 Test Enan 400mg
Weeks 8-13 Fina 75mg/ED
Weeks 8-13 Winni 50mg/ED

Make sure to run you ALA, cranberry juice and/or cranberry extract while on the Fina/Winni.

Using the prop in the beggining will allow you to jumpstart it. Then towards the end with the Fina/winny you can cut the calories a little and shed some of the unwanted to fat. Plus it'll harden you up.

Use liquidex all the way through clomid if you don't want a bloat from the test.

Good luck on your decision!

**AZlifter** · 07-10-2002, 03:34 PM

oh yeah....you'd start clomid 3 days after your last Fina inject

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