Some input from other DNP users would help

[daem]

To preface this post, I first wanted to say that I have read every thread on every page when doing a search for "DNP". I have used the drug 3 times successfully in the past and been pleased with the results. However, in that time, I used -H-'s product and experienced some really nasty sides that are very comparable to other users on here.


To hint at the product I am currently running, it is a 250mg blend of DNP crystal along with other antihistimines, et al.


Currently, I am on Day 5 of a DNP run I planned to take 14-21 days depending on my sanity. I have enough experience under my belt where I planned to go 400mg for the duration, maybe even bump it to 600mg when necessary.

So here has been my dosage so far in this scheme:

Day 1 - 400mg (split into 2 dosages 9am and 3pm)
Day 2 - 400mg
Day 3 - 400mg
Day 4 - 600mg
Day 5 - Planned 600mg

Was hoping to lose 15lbs this cycle, and move from 109.6kg to 100-105kg.

I have monitored my body functions (thermometer, blood pressure) since beginning, and I can't get above 97 degrees on the thermometer even when taking my temperature via my ass (Thank you gf). I am taking the standard DNP regiment of supplements like melatonin, pyruvate, multi vitamin, alpha lipoic acid, grape seed extract, flax seed oil, and

I am drinking 10-15 16fl oz water bottles a day and doing my best to eat with a p/f/c ratio of 60%/30%/10% to prevent getting overly hot.

What is perplexing is that I have experienced very little sides, and only what I would consider "hot flashes" with minimal sweating and NO soaked sheets or clothes yet, even when I bumped up the dosage to 600mg yesterday. I am trying light cardio and not even getting as sweaty as I did with clen.

The funny thing is, though, is that the initial baseline of 109.6kg is now down to 107.9kg and I don't even look bloated yet. Yesterday I felt the heat a little bit, but not even after I ate a bunch of steamed broccoli (my only real carb meal of the day.) My temperature has not gone above 98 degrees since beginning...I am actually about 0.4 degrees cooler overall than my normal basal temp. Ejaculate is tinted yellow, and urine is VERY yellow.

Can anyone speak to an experience similar to this where even 400-600mg of crystal didn't manifest any ugly sides?

I feel that I should have really kicked the cycle in with the 600mg dosage on the 4th day and sweated my ass off, however my thoughts are split between two possibilities:

1.) I am expecting too much too early
2.) I just cope with crystal DNP extremely well

Any thoughts?

[SHAGGY]

Well, I would be very happy to have the effects you have right now. Although I can't explain why now you are reacting so differently then before, I will say that I always feel like crap, even when I take an incredibly light dose of DNP I start to feel spaced out, unfocused and tired. Haven't tried crystal though. Crystal should be accompanied by less sides than powder, however I thought H's was crystal, don't know for sure though.
Anyway, good luck and lets hope it stays this way.

SHAGGY

[fred9]

crystal is less effective then the normal powder version..but it works faster and easier to cap...600mg of the powder was really high for me, but 600mg of the crystal is quite ok....

[SHAGGY]

How do you mean less effective?? do you mean that with a similar dose you will lose less weight?? People tend to think that it is more effective but has less sides.

SHAGGY

[goose]

crystal is less effective then the normal powder version..but it works faster and easier to cap...600mg of the powder was really high for me, but 600mg of the crystal is quite ok....

I found them to be as effective to each other,but the crystal has less sides for me.Would never use powder again,I agree 500mg of crystal is very tolerable following the laws correctly,with amazing results.

[fred9]

read somewhere else that 25% of the crystal dnp weight is the sodium salt...so u have to take a little more...but still i prefer the crystal much quicker and easier to handle..

[daem]

I found 1 cap from -H- still left and I cracked one open to inspect the contents along side a cap from 'd' and -H-'s was noticeably different. H's was brighter yellow, and more powdery.

d's is more brown, and more coarse. the textures are completely different. if i had to say what i thought, i'd say h's was powder and d's is crystal.

at any rate, i should have a heavy concentration in my blood now and at least be feeling warm.

my temperature is still low...

i just got back from eating sushi, and had a bunch of rice, and no new heat.

sigh.

[fred9]

I found them to be as effective to each other,but the crystal has less sides for me.Would never use powder again,I agree 500mg of crystal is very tolerable following the laws correctly,with amazing results.

same overhere...never gonna use the powder again...
started 2 days ago....1st day 1000mg 2nd day 800 mg ..today 600mg...and the other days 400mg....and the sweat is allready dripping on my back while im typing this

[daem]

I guess the main question I would have revolves around how the drug is working.

If I am not feeling heat, that means my body temperature is still normal or low. Does this mean that the drug might be doing it's job behind the scenes and attacking fat? I have never heard of anyone report that they had an effective cycle where they didn't suffer through heat.

I'm trying to think about a journal that a bro on here did that highlights how he lost a ton of strength, didn't think it was working, and didn't lose weight.

[goose]

same overhere...never gonna use the powder again...
started 2 days ago....1st day 1000mg 2nd day 800 mg ..today 600mg...and the other days 400mg....and the sweat is allready dripping on my back while im typing this

Yes I truly Believe in front loading DNP for the advanced user.I love to include Sibutramine Hydrochloride during a DNP cycle,you ever try this?

I remember we talked about this a while ago,but with a low dose how long do you think you can stay on DNP?

[fred9]

yep the sibutramine is allready mixed threw the Quercetin and DNP...
Ive used the powder version for i think 7-8 weeks..first 4 weeks 300mg last 3-4weeks 200mg...but after 3 weeks of stopping i still was sweaty all the time...after lets say 6weeks i didnt "feel" the dnp anymore..

Another funny thing, high dose dnp makes my body fluids (like sperm) turn yellow, low dose this doesnt happen

[goose]

Thanks fred,great to know your sperm will be yellow 2morow,LOL.Just make sure to shoot in your Girlfriends face,tasty.Your the man,good luck with your EQ prop cycle.....

[fred9]

Thanks fred,great to know your sperm will be yellow 2morow,LOL.Just make sure to shoot in your Girlfriends face,tasty.Your the man,good luck with your EQ prop cycle.....

lol..thnx bro..

[bowie]

I did 300mg/day for 3 weeks of powder. Results were 17 pounds lost, sweat like a 2 dollar whoerr from day 3 on, low energy(felt like I had the flu) ended up with a sore throat, and I ended up painting the rest of down stairs with yellow paint instead of dnp. Just a side note. My first bulk package of dnp was quite yellow, my second was almost a dark brown, can anyone tell me if this is normal?