can your eplace cyp with enth at the end of a cycle?

[Doc.Sust]

scenario, running a 12 wk cycle of cyp, you run out of cyp at wk 10, what would happen if you finished out the last 2 wks of the cycle with enth? how about prop? i know this isnt an ideal situation, but the person i am asking for is not in the ideal situation and this is as good as it can get for him. how would this effect strength gains or size?

[HORSE~]

There would be no ill effect that I can see he would just need to start pct with the test e 4 days sooner....

If he can handle the ed injections prop would be the best to finsh with....

[Bigmax]

You beat me to it Horse...i would just finish with the prop bro.

[Doc.Sust]

There would be no ill effect that I can see he would just need to start pct with the test e 4 days sooner....

If he can handle the ed injections prop would be the best to finsh with....

wait explain this to me, i thought with cyp or enth,you should start pct 2 wks after the last injection. why with test e would you start the pct 4 days sooner?

[HORSE~]

wait explain this to me, i thought with cyp or enth,you should start pct 2 wks after the last injection. why with test e would you start the pct 4 days sooner?

Prop pct start time= 3 days after last injection

Test e pct start time=14 days after the last injection

Test c pct start time=18 day's after the last injection

Sust pct start time=21 days after last injection

Test c has a slightly longer lasting ester than test e....

[Doc.Sust]

Prop pct start time= 3 days after last injection

Test e pct start time=14 days after the last injection

Test c pct start time=18 day's after the last injection

Sust pct start time=21 days after last injection

Test c has a slightly longer lasting ester than test e....

see, you learn something new every day! thanks horse, i was always under the impression that since E and C are very similar , that the pct schedule would be the same. thanks for the clarification,

[skipp]

I would finish with prop, that way you can finish up with only a few days and get right to recovery.

[Hard Head]

Prop pct start time= 3 days after last injection

Test e pct start time=14 days after the last injection

Test c pct start time=18 day's after the last injection

Sust pct start time=21 days after last injection

Test c has a slightly longer lasting ester than test e....

Nah Bro, this is old school. Sure these are some good clearance times but there is no need to wait for PCT. Look for A. Roberts PCT with HCG. Way, way better and faster recovery.

Now on to the question at hand, it doesn't make one hoot of a difference if you finish your last 2 weeks with Enan, your gains will still be the same as if you finished with Cyp.

[HORSE~]

Nah Bro, this is old school. Sure these are some good clearance times but there is no need to wait for PCT. Look for A. Roberts PCT with HCG. Way, way better and faster recovery.

Now on to the question at hand, it doesn't make one hoot of a difference if you finish your last 2 weeks with Enan, your gains will still be the same as if you finished with Cyp.

My statement is based on the ester's I do not belive the ester realese times are any diffrent than what I posted if so please enlighten me....

[skipp]

I think he's saying you should take your PCT right after your last shot, horse.




Well I side with horse, because if the sauce isn't out of your system, it really isn't PCT it's maintenance which is completely different.

[HORSE~]

Nah Bro, this is old school. Sure these are some good clearance times but there is no need to wait for PCT. Look for A. Roberts PCT with HCG. Way, way better and faster recovery.

Now on to the question at hand, it doesn't make one hoot of a difference if you finish your last 2 weeks with Enan, your gains will still be the same as if you finished with Cyp.

Way better than What??I gave no pct advice,I only stated what each esters active life was and when a standered pct would begin...

BTW What is better about hookers pct than the other 1000 pct proticals out there??Find the one that works for you and and stick with it....Everybody is diffrent and everybody will not agree or disagree that hookers pct is the best or worst pct protical out there.....Nothing is written in stone as far as aas useage and recovery goes we all experiment with our boddies until we find what work's the best for us....Then we experiment some more looking for something that work's even better....

I am certenily not saying that Anthony's pct is not good just makeing the point that you can not say it is better than a pct that you havent even seen layed out(since I did not lay one out) and that we all respond diffrently to diffrent methods and drug's....

[guest589745]

Enanthate and Cypionate are basically the same Doc. I have used them both before. The only difference is the ester attatched which does not vary too much between the two. The ester of any given compound controls the amount of the hormone that is released into the bloodstream.

[Hard Head]

H6, calm down.

The clearance times you gave are just right but those are not when to start your PCT, that is the old school part. No need to wait for the full clearance to start your PCT, IF you use Roberts HCG protocal.

Way Way better? Well any protocol that helps someone recover faster (and doesn't include chlomid), is going to be better than something else, anything else maybe, what's the problem? If you utilize his protocol, there is no need to wait for clearance, just get to it, and recover faster, so you can get to your next cycle quicker. You got something better? Step up. Faster recovery is what it's all about.

I know this isn't a PCT thread, but it bears noting that there is such a small difference between cyp and enan, it's almost insignificant, and the clearance times are only a concern IF you plan to wait for PCT, which IMO is not the best way to go about a speedy recovery. Do whatever you want, I will.

Sheesh, no need to get bent out of shape just cause there is someone who doesn't agree with you.