Tren rage

[rhino1]

How bad will tren affect my attitude...I am already the type that likes to argue about stupid things....When my tren is in full efect will I be able to just sit back and decide to let things go?

ANyone have any info???

Im a little worried simply because my wife and I already argue...hehe...i just dont want it to become worse.

Am I just being paranoid?

[shrpskn]

If you're already a predispositioned asshole, you can bet that some tren will likely make you an even bigger asshole.

What's your cycle experience? How has previous AAS use effected your demeanor?

I'd say if you think you already have an attitude problem, then tren is likely not what you will want to run.

-ShrpSkn

[rhino1]

Well....Test E 500mgx14wks; deca 400mgx13 wks; anadrol 100mg edx4wks. Did fine with other people and never got too upset or agravated by anything or anyone that time.

Im not necessarily an asshole...I mean...well I can be...but not generally...I just like to "debate" issues sometimes....not one to physically fight but sometimes I am very passionate about things I believe in if you know what I mean....

Will I be able to recognize myself getting upset and then consciously combat it????

How do you think I will do based on that info?

[shrpskn]

Sounds like you have a handle on controlling your temper...perhaps you'll be fine then.

Just start out easy with tren A, 50mg/ed and see how it treats you. If sides get out of hand, drop it and you should be fine after a few days.

Good luck,

-ShrpSkn

[BG]

It makes me crazy, sometimes it get so bad I dont relize it until 2 days later. But Ive been an asshole most of my life.

[guest589745]

trenboloen as well as other highly androgenic compounds, reduce seratonegic aminos, causing increased likeliness for aggression.

[HORSE~]

It makes me crazy, sometimes it get so bad I dont relize it until 2 days later. But Ive been an asshole most of my life.

No way you an asshole?!?!?

[BG]

No way you an asshole?!?!?

Just saw this jerk off!!!!!!

[G-1000]

It makes me crazy, sometimes it get so bad I dont relize it until 2 days later. But Ive been an asshole most of my life.

Join the clube

[tranzit]

I cant take tren anymore, it effects me so bad by week five i am an emotinal wreck. keep in mind i have depression though. But i will say this nothing and i have used EVERYTHING nothing gave me the gains real gains not water a 10 week ed 100mg fina dose and 500 mg of test e a week. I kept every pound and was jacked for well over a year off cycle. and even went down to a 3 day a week work out. tren is nothing to mess with. But Decca does this to some people too. not to the same extent but it will cause depression.

[MuscleScience]

I was worried about that too when I did my first cycle. I naturally am very high strung and I bottle stuff up inside then explode, thats why im involved in MMA to let it out. But I would say I wasnt anymore angry than normal on gear. But I wasnt on tren so cant help you there. I probably would be the poster child of roid rage if it indeed is true

[guest589745]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...ubmed_docs um

Aggression in male rats receiving anabolic androgenic steroids: effects of social and environmental provocation.Breuer ME, McGinnis MY, Lumia AR, Possidente BP.
Department of Cell Biology and Anatomy, Mount Sinai School of Medicine, New York, NY 10029, USA.

This study examined the effects of anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS) on aggression under different social and environmental conditions. Three AAS were tested in gonadally intact male rats: testosterone propionate (TP), nandrolone (ND), and stanozolol (ST). Doses of 5 mg/kg were given 5 times/week, with gonadally intact controls receiving vehicle only (propylene glycol). Animals received six weekly tests under each condition in a counterbalanced order. Results show that the three AAS differed in their ability to elicit aggression. Males receiving TP were more aggressive than controls, ND males were similar to controls, and ST males were less aggressive than controls. In the social and environmental provocation tests TP-treated males were more aggressive than other groups, but were able to discriminate between intact and castrated opponents and between their home cage and a neutral cage. In the environmental provocation test, TP males were also more aggressive against opponents when tested in the opponent's home cage. It is suggested that chronic exposure to high levels of TP does not eliminate the ability to discriminate between social or environmental cues, as might be expected if it induces a " 'roid rage." However, TP does increase the likelihood that the animal will respond with aggression/dominance in a provoking situation. All three AAS variably affected serum testosterone and LH levels, as well as testes, seminal vesicle, and prostate weights. No effect on body weight was observed. Copyright 2001 Academic Press

[cj1capp]

I Love Tren , I Find My Self More Controlled , Kinder And Considerate When On Cycle, I GeusS Its Just Depends On The Person

[magic32]

Sounds like you have a handle on controlling your temper...perhaps you'll be fine then.

Just start out easy with tren A, 50mg/ed and see how it treats you. If sides get out of hand, drop it and you should be fine after a few days.

Good luck,

-ShrpSkn

Yep, that's all you can really do. Some tolerate it well and others experience a diversity of sides including the Hulk.

Whenever he becomes angered or enraged, a startling metamorphosis occurs which transforms Dr. David Bruce Banner into, the Incredible Hulk. - Marvel Comics

[Vegas67]

I found myself apologizing alot when on tren for my lack of patience. Just be aware of yourself more and count to ten before exploding.

[elitetky]

Dont believe that the drug will cause you to have cause you more problems
that might change your thinking towards it psychologically

[tranzit]

elitetky


Please explain this theory as somone who has been cycling off and on for over 12 years and has two years of pysch under my belt i would like to hear the reason for your thoughts on this matter seeing as how it is WELL documented that after the 6th week of tren you become more agressive not to mention the fact that it is one of the strongest steroids known to man.

Your first cycle you will not have as many problems as you will with cycles after wards this is my experience and has been backed up by many others as well. if you have depression issues or rage issues tren is not for you.

[guest589745]

There is no specific time of when you will begin to experience increased aggression with trenbolone. Could be the first day, not necessarily the 6th week. I have seen no medical documentation regarding the mental effects of trenbolone either however, I do not doubt they occur.

[guest589745]

Please explain this theory as somone who has been cycling off and on for over 22 years.

Tranzit public profile:
Date of Birth:
August 21, 1974
Age:
32


So you have been cycling since you were 10 ?

[MuscleScience]

I had a buddy who flipped out after 1 shot of Sus 250 on his first cycle. Never touched it ever again. Thats what he claims anyway.

[guest589745]

Please explain this theory as somone who has been cycling off and on for over 22 years.

Tranzit public profile:
Date of Birth:
August 21, 1974
Age:
32


So you have been cycling since you were 10 ?

Bump..............

[GHO5T]

Tranzit public profile:
Date of Birth:
August 21, 1974
Age:
32


So you have been cycling since you were 10 ?

thats funny

[guest589745]

thats funny

yea I gotta call bullshit on that one. Not someone I would take any advice from.

[shrpskn]

Tranzit public profile:
Date of Birth:
August 21, 1974
Age:
32


So you have been cycling since you were 10 ?

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[scriptfactory]

Tranzit public profile:
Date of Birth:
August 21, 1974
Age:
32


So you have been cycling since you were 10 ?

[guest589745]

Either way he's a liar lol.

[guest589745]

Bump

[tranzit]

There is no specific time of when you will begin to experience increased aggression with trenbolone. Could be the first day, not necessarily the 6th week. I have seen no medical documentation regarding the mental effects of trenbolone either however, I do not doubt they occur.

A. Who the **** is doing real life testing in the US on the effects of tren. B i ment to type 12 years but if you want to be technial im sure i have had many more experiences with tren then you have.

B. please somone chime in if they had anything other then a placibo effect on their first shot of tren.

c Noone gives a **** about what happend to a rat when exposed to tren. we have enough guys in here who have downed enough gear to tell you exactly what the result is going to be. Although mental states are not the same i will stand behind my 6th week theory. I dont use the bullshit ** and the powerders ect that everyone else uses i use pellets and make my own. Im 6 1/2 cycles into 14 week ed fina cycles. so i think i have some room to talk on this. The half cycle was the one that almost cost me my marrige so i no longer take fina. And FYI You sound like freakin Ross man until you can produce a PHD please dont respond to my posts with somthing you vomited from some cut and paste from god knows where.

My motto is this noone but a healthy of age responsible person on cycle can tell you what the real effects are going to be.

man it feels good to be back.

[Bigmax]

I had a buddy who flipped out after 1 shot of Sus 250 on his first cycle. Never touched it ever again. Thats what he claims anyway.

Bro,you're Buddy is full of sh*t.

[BG]

Bro,you're Buddy is full of sh*t.

I agree . Skull you keep posting all these test on rats, what good is it? When you have some test on humans even better bodybuilders it will hold some weight.

[DecaDant]

What AAS are unlikely to cause aggression and which are?

[shrpskn]

What AAS are unlikely to cause aggression and which are?

IMHO, it's the individual that brings out aggression when on AAS, not the specific compound(s) that are in use.
Like stated so many times before, some individuals can run ridiculous amounts of any AAS and remain in a collective manner...others lose it after a short time on the most minute amounts.
My ending opinion then, is that it's the individual, not the AAS being used, that brings out the rage in some individuals, hence drawing my final conclusion that "roid rage" is in fact a myth.

-ShrpSkn

[DecaDant]

There's no easy way out for us moody guys then!

[fLgAtOr]

I'm completely blown away that this thread is still going back and forth.

There is no doubt in my mind that certain drugs increase aggression. If somebody would like to post a study on that, please, by all means. However, I don't need one. Certain compounds may even be worse than others (tren, for instance).

The bottom line though, is that you have the responsibility to control your emotions when taking these compounds. For me, I have to make a conscious effort to keep my attitude in check. But if it gets too much (I think like in tranzit's case) then you have the responsibility to not use it.

If you yell at your girl everytime you get drunk, you probably shouldn't drink.

[guest589745]

I agree . Skull you keep posting all these test on rats, what good is it? When you have some test on humans even better bodybuilders it will hold some weight.

Though rats and humans are obviously different species, tests are not done on them because they have no relevance to humans as well. They should not be discredited. There aren't exactly tons of bodybuilders willing/able to submit themselves to be monitored for scientific analysis.

[goose]

This is an example of tren rage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgQ2py1CnAI

[shrpskn]

^^lmmfao!!!

[cj1capp]

what was that all about?

[smiler]

A. Who the **** is doing real life testing in the US on the effects of tren. B i ment to type 12 years but if you want to be technial im sure i have had many more experiences with tren then you have.

B. please somone chime in if they had anything other then a placibo effect on their first shot of tren.

c Noone gives a **** about what happend to a rat when exposed to tren. we have enough guys in here who have downed enough gear to tell you exactly what the result is going to be. Although mental states are not the same i will stand behind my 6th week theory. I dont use the bullshit ** and the powerders ect that everyone else uses i use pellets and make my own. Im 6 1/2 cycles into 14 week ed fina cycles. so i think i have some room to talk on this. The half cycle was the one that almost cost me my marrige so i no longer take fina. And FYI You sound like freakin Ross man until you can produce a PHD please dont respond to my posts with somthing you vomited from some cut and paste from god knows where.

My motto is this noone but a healthy of age responsible person on cycle can tell you what the real effects are going to be.

man it feels good to be back.

i'm not here to start shhit, but why do you constantly bs everyone? 6.5 cycles you say?
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...42#post2303842
here you say you've done 12 cycles. that was precisely 1 year ago. sorry bro but i recall awhile back you were doing the same bs. just don't want anyone to follow your advice. last time you were arguing with a bunch of vets/ mods and 1 posted your pic. no disrespect intended but you appeared to have 15 inch arms, so i must call bs with all this. i can't see how someone has that body after any cycles whatsoever.

[smiler]

i'm not here to start shhit, but why do you constantly bs everyone? 6.5 cycles you say?
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...42#post2303842
here you say you've done 12 cycles. that was precisely 1 year ago. sorry bro but i recall awhile back you were doing the same bs. just don't want anyone to follow your advice. last time you were arguing with a bunch of vets/ mods and 1 posted your pic. no disrespect intended but you appeared to have 15 inch arms, so i must call bs with all this. i can't see how someone has that body after any cycles whatsoever.

how did that happen?