Winstrol Vs Turnabol for mass

[elite2kr]

Which oral steriod steriod do you think would overall be better for mass gains?

[SVTMuscle*]

T-Bol if anything. Winny is not made for 'mass' its more of a cutting/hardening agent

[Hellmaskbanned]

I saw much better size & strength gains from Winstrol.

[elite2kr]

T-Bol if anything. Winny is not made for 'mass' its more of a cutting/hardening agent

Well i meant compared to each other, ive heard some people report better gains from winny over t-bol.

Winny tends to be cheaper so i was wondering if i could sub the winny for t-bol to save some cash.

[king6]

I've heard of people gaining 10-15 lbs of lean mass on Tbol. I have never heard of anything that dramatic with winny, but everyone is different.

[spywizard]

I saw much better size & strength gains from Winstrol.

Really??? how much hair and joint strength did you lose???

My experience with winnie is not the same, but that just goes to show we are all different..

[Hellmaskbanned]

Really??? how much hair and joint strength did you lose???

My experience with winnie is not the same, but that just goes to show we are all different..

Baldness doesnt run in my family, no hair loss.

Joints were already aching after running Tbol/Var, but when I did winstrol noticed my wrists started to hurt.

Var dried my joints up just as much as winstrol.

[spywizard]

Baldness doesnt run in my family, no hair loss.

Joints were already aching after running Tbol/Var, but when I did winstrol noticed my wrists started to hurt.

Var dried my joints up just as much as winstrol.

i heard that.. i ran tbol/var.. finished 4 weeks ago.. didn't notice problems with joints...

Might try a winny only cycle with the myogenx just to run a control test on the effects..

cool...

[Hellmaskbanned]

i heard that.. i ran tbol/var.. finished 4 weeks ago.. didn't notice problems with joints...

Might try a winny only cycle with the myogenx just to run a control test on the effects..

cool...

I was surprised tbol/var did that....not many have said it does that from what I read.

With winstrol I was expecting dry joints so I ran glucossamine/chondroiton, Mega doses of Vitamin C , all that good stuff.

Probably why winstrol didn't hit me to hard.

[cfiler]

Tbol all the way.

Personally I wouldn't bother running Winstrol in a bulking cycle. But I'm definately going to include it in my cutting cycle.

I'm thinking Prop + winstrol in the spring time for my cutter.

[MASTER]

Yeh tbol for mass by a mile, all winnie has ever done for me is give me painful joints.

[elite2kr]

Is gymomastia very common from T-bol, or is it a dose related issue?

[Hellmaskbanned]

Is gymomastia very common from T-bol, or is it a dose related issue?

It should not cause gyno because it doesn't aromatize.

[magic32]

i heard that.. i ran tbol/var.. finished 4 weeks ago.. didn't notice problems with joints...

Might try a winny only cycle with the myogenx just to run a control test on the effects..

cool...

Agreed, never felt or even heard of joint pain with Tbol or Var separately or simultaneously.

You must be well acquainted with the effects of Winny only to claim a controlled environment with MyogenX?

And do we have any Myo reviews in yet? I haven't seen any so far.

M.

[elite2kr]

What do you guys think about the unmethylated winny that are now selling as ph?

[notorious_mem]

What do you guys think about the unmethylated winny that are now selling as ph?

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[*Narkissos*]

I saw much better size & strength gains from Winstrol.

ditto

I ran tbol @ 100 mg ED... zilch

Keep the tbol...give it to Mr. Ambercrombie.

[elite2kr]

ditto

I ran tbol @ 100 mg ED... zilch

Keep the tbol...give it to Mr. Ambercrombie.

you mean keep the winstrol and give the tbol to Mr. Abercrombie?

[Standard01]

T-bol didn't do much at 80mg ed, Winny was pretty good at 100mg ed. Much more strength from the Winny.

[Tren Bull]

Which oral steriod steriod do you think would overall be better for mass gains?

try running them both at the same time at high doses. that makes an ideal way of finishing the last 5-6 weeks of a cycle

[*Narkissos*]

you mean keep the winstrol and give the tbol to Mr. Abercrombie?

yea..that

T-Bol if anything. Winny is not made for 'mass' its more of a cutting/hardening agent

[*Narkissos*]

try running them both at the same time at high doses. that makes an ideal way of finishing the last 5-6 weeks of a cycle

Tried that... saw nothing 'additional'

Chucked the remainder of the tbol in the can.