Primobolan Question

[moush]

Alright, i tried to do some research but nothing that came up answered my questions.

First off I have never ran primo before but I have 4 cycles done already. I am 24 years old...25 in March. I havent done a real cycle in about 2 years. I am currently on a cutting diet still...nearing the end of 3 months of cutting. I have lost a significant amount of body fat and now I am looking to fill out a little but with lean hard muscle while keeping a very clean diet. I do have stretchy skin from a previous diet I do inwhich I lost 100 pounds thats why I want to fill into myself possibly even doing a clean bulk diet. So on that note here I go

If i run primo what is the normal frequency of injections? What compound would it be best combined with to give me the clean hard full gains I want? Could I run primo by itself? if so what are the gains like? How long do you run primo for? 8 weeks?

[Random]

Primo is best run 12 wks in my opinion, and at a high dose...great drug, very clean gains, and pretty much zero side effects...

CD

[moush]

would you run it alone for 12 weeks? i would run pct as 300/100/50 for clomid and some nolva and letro anything else i would need?

[kal300]

you can use Test with your Primo

[moush]

hows this look?

wk 1-4 Anavar @ 50mg/day
wk 1-13 Test E @ 750 mg/wk
wk 1-12 Primo @ 400mg/wk

Followed by PCT 2 weeks after last Test E shot

[moush]

bump

[polat]

bro
wk 1-6 anavar 40mg
wk 1-12 T E 500-750( up to you)
wk 1-12 Primo 400
wk 12-16 Primo 600

you will have much better gains.

[moush]

anyone else have any opinions

[Getbig06]

bro
wk 1-6 anavar 40mg
wk 1-12 T E 500-750( up to you)
wk 1-12 Primo 400
wk 12-16 Primo 600
you will have much better gains.

Why stop test at week 12 and continue running primo all the way to week 16 on it's own?? Its common practice among the users here to run test all the way through the cycle. So if your going to try a 16 weeker imo run test along with it too. Even though I think 12 weeks is enough. IMO I like what the bro had originally better, with just a small change.


wk 1-13 Test E @ 750 mg/wk
wk 1-12 Primo @ 400mg/wk
wk 10-13 Anavar @ 80mg/day

two weeks later your pct.

[moush]

why are you running the var at the end? is that to accentuate the primo gains even more?

also I will be taking 10mg nolva ED and running a low sodium, very clean bulk diet. I am still cutting and I will continue to cut until I feel I am ready to a bulking diet with this cycle. Is there anything I should run at PCT besides Clomid, Nolva, Trib along with BCAA, Glutamine? What about Aromasin? could I use that as well?

[Getbig06]

[QUOTE=moush]why are you running the var at the end? is that to accentuate the primo gains even more? [/QUOTE=moush]


No, I would run var at the end cuz it'll harden you up a bit and you'll burn some fat with it too.


There is a thread on a var only cycle by cd read up on it.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=236687

[Persian]

u should use var to kick start ur cycle ..cause u wont see the gains till week 3-4 ....so use var in the start ...
u gonna b using any ai

[polat]

Why stop test at week 12 and continue running primo all the way to week 16 on it's own?? Its common practice among the users here to run test all the way through the cycle. So if your going to try a 16 weeker imo run test along with it too. Even though I think 12 weeks is enough. IMO I like what the bro had originally better, with just a small change.


wk 1-13 Test E @ 750 mg/wk
wk 1-12 Primo @ 400mg/wk
wk 10-13 Anavar @ 80mg/day

two weeks later your pct.

First of all primo is metenolone enanthate.
It is low androjenic high anabolic! It means it is ANDROJENIC!

Mate, I advise you to learn about methyled steroids!
You don' have a clue about what anavar is.

wk 12 to 16 is not needed a lot but if you try you will see better gains.

[Getbig06]

**It is low androjenic high anabolic! It means it is ANDROJENIC!**

Ok Androgenic. But what do you mean by the above?

Polat, how would you take it... The reason I chose it at the end if becuz of its fat burning abilities.

I just wouldn't (as well as a lot of bros here) not run anything without test included. Since your natural test production will be stopped

[Getbig06]

u should use var to kick start ur cycle ..cause u wont see the gains till week 3-4 ....so use var in the start ...
u gonna b using any ai

Var to kickstart? I think your thinking dbol or adrol or tbol.

[moush]

does anyone else have any help cus i seem to be getting mixed opinions on this issue...

[Booz]

primobolan is a very weak compound and as such you will have to use more than 400mg weekly imo to get anything off this drug............

[polat]

As you know test is a androgenic hormon. When you cut out the test at the end of 12th week and if you want to keep gaining without side effects you can extend your cycle with a low androgenic agent. This could be proviron as well.
as long as primobolan has fat burning effect you don't need to add anavar at the end of your cycle for fat burning.

[moush]

hey booz...hows this look?

wk 1-13 test e @ 750 mg/wk
wk 1-12 primo @ 600 mg/wk
wk 9-15 var @ 60mg ED

followed by PCT

[moush]

or

wk 1-6 var @ 60mg ED
wk 1-13 Test E @750mg/wk
wk 1-12 Primo @ 600mg/wk

[Booz]

yes thats better mate,id run the var for longer if you could but thats just my preferance...............

[moush]

oh really? like what 8 weeks?

[moush]

and which one of the two would you go with...var in the beginning or the end?

[moush]

sorry about all the posts...but would you us aromasin? or proviron?

[Random]

I agree with Booz, in fact, id run primo higher than 600mg...

CD

[moush]

hey captain dominate...if u ran a var, test e, and primo cycle how would you run it?

[Random]

I would go

Primo 1500-2000mg per wks 1-12
Test e 500-700mg wks 1-12
Var 60mg wk 6-12

CD

[moush]

dam! thats a lot of juice...i wasnt expecting to get that high with the primo...thats gonna run me way too much $$ i guess i gotta use another compound with test e and var...

[Random]

Yea i hate to say it but primo is Very weak like booz said, it certainly has its place, especially for those trying to avoid most side effects...but it has been known to get costly...

CD

[moush]

dammit I was looking forward to its fat burning and muscle hardening effects...

[Random]

It gets you hard but not that hard.....

CD

[moush]

oh? well let me tell you my cycle experience...I have run a Test E, Deca cycle for 10 weeks, I ran a Test E Eq cycle for 13 weeks, and my last cycle which was about a year and a half ago was Test E, Eq, Tren E and lead up to PCT with Winnie for 6 weeks for a 16 week cycle.

What would you recommend for this next go around? I have been on a cutting diet for the past almost 3 months and I have kept almost all my muscle and drop a significant amount of body fat. I weigh about 195-200 lbs and I am 5'9". I have been training for about 6 or 7 years now and I have a Cert in Personal Training and a B.S. in Nutrition. I would like to avoid ED or EOD injects if possible.

I was thinking of running a Var, Test E, Eq or Deca (low dose - 200-300mg/wk) and Tren E again...what do you think?

[Random]

Ya man, ur on the right track, i would run

Test E
NPP
Var
and Primo if u can afford it at high doses

CD

[moush]

what exactly is NPP?? whats it stand for so I can try n research it?

[moush]

well I found out what it is but NPP has to be run ED or EOD...

[BajanBastard]

Nandrolone phenylpropionate

[BajanBastard]

It can be injected E3D.

[moush]

oh so a Mon/thurs split would work...sweet

[moush]

heres what I am looking at running...please critique

wk 1-8 Var @ 60mg ED
wk 1-13 Test E @ 750 mg/wk
wk 1-12 NPP @ 400mg/wk

hows the dosing look for the NPP? is it too high or low? hows the length of NPP that im running look? too long?

[BajanBastard]

I think that cycle looks good.