Tren A help!

**DemonicEinstein** · 01-10-2007, 04:46 PM

After reading up on trenbolone acetate i have decided to give it a try, but i need somebodies help, that really knows what they are doing.....i want to know exactly what to take with Tren A to minimize all the possibilities of sides......like what tests to take with it so on and so on........i got told "tren with winny and test cyp" any other suggestions or anything i should add to this?

**mkrulic** · 01-10-2007, 04:53 PM

gonna depend on goals and cycle history.

**DemonicEinstein** · 01-10-2007, 04:57 PM

ive done one cycle of sust 250 and d-bol, but that was a long while ago....and my goals are to gain as much muscle mass and get as ripped as i can within one 10-12 week cycle

**mkrulic** · 01-10-2007, 05:06 PM

the sides from tren (night sweats, insomnia, rage) cannot be lessened by anything I know of. I take test w/ everything. this was my last cycle:
weeks 1-6
test deconate 500mg/week
test propionate 500mg/week
tren acetate 700mg/week
nandrolone deconate 300mg/week

the deca is for my knees and I get results in about a week and a half. the test dec is because I like the way it hangs in there after the cycle is over. the tren was a little high. 400mg/week is a good amount for a first run of tren. a long cycle isnt necessary w/ tren a. it kicks in fast. I like a short ester and a long ester w/ the test. hope that helps.

**fLgAtOr** · 01-10-2007, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by DemonicEinstein

After reading up on trenbolone acetate i have decided to give it a try, but i need somebodies help, that really knows what they are doing.....i want to know exactly what to take with Tren A to minimize all the possibilities of sides......like what tests to take with it so on and so on........i got told "tren with winny and test cyp" any other suggestions or anything i should add to this?

I hate to give you the cliche response, but most people will know everything they can about a compound before actually deciding to run it.

Let's start with your stats and goals first...and what kind of cycle do you plan to run?

**2deizel** · 01-10-2007, 05:10 PM

i would wait another cycle or 2 befor using tren. since your probably going to use it anyways sides differ from person to person. what experiance you may not. i found no difference if i use test or not my sides from tren are always the same. that include night sweats nightmares no patience.

uh i think everyones goal is get as big and ripped as possible.
eat rest and train hard.

**DemonicEinstein** · 01-10-2007, 05:15 PM

so i shouldnt need to go over a 6 week cycle with Tren A and whats the longest i could go for? I get what everything is for but the Nandrolone deconate, would i need that? and do you split up the shots, like twice a week or just once a week?

**shrpskn** · 01-10-2007, 05:18 PM

Sounds to me like continued research is in order here.

**DemonicEinstein** · 01-10-2007, 05:19 PM

sorry bout all the questions, i just want to know everything, b4 doing it. My stats are 6'0 205lbs around 14% BF I work out everyday switching upper and lower body everyother day and do abs everyday.

**mkrulic** · 01-10-2007, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by DemonicEinstein

so i shouldnt need to go over a 6 week cycle with Tren A and whats the longest i could go for? I get what everything is for but the Nandrolone deconate, would i need that? and do you split up the shots, like twice a week or just once a week?

whoa, slow down. I posted what I did but the compounds I used are specific to my gains. look at what I wrote again:
"the deca is for my knees and I get results in about a week and a half. "
nandroone deconate, a.k.a., deca is for the knees. if your knees are good I wouldnt put that compound in the mix. six weeks is a good first run of tren but dont run my numbers. this is what you can probably get you hands on:
weeks 1-6
sust 500mg
tren 400mg
I'd do 4 shots a week. the tren will prob be 100mg/ml and the sust 250. So make each shot 1/2 cc of sust and 1 cc of tren. all in one syringe. total ml in syringe is 1.5. take that 4 times per week.

**mkrulic** · 01-10-2007, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by DemonicEinstein

sorry bout all the questions, i just want to know everything, b4 doing it. My stats are 6'0 205lbs around 14% BF I work out everyday switching upper and lower body everyother day and do abs everyday.

how long have you been training? this is a pretty novice workout. not trying to be ignorant but tren is a pretty serious hormone. you should be at the end of your rope before trying. you might make more gains from a better routine

**DemonicEinstein** · 01-10-2007, 05:34 PM

Say i do Sust 250 and tren, nothing else should be takin with it to minimize the sides?

**DemonicEinstein** · 01-10-2007, 05:35 PM

and a better routine would be something like?

**fLgAtOr** · 01-10-2007, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by DemonicEinstein

Say i do Sust 250 and tren, nothing else should be takin with it to minimize the sides?

No...Don't take tren. You don't need it and you are not experienced enough to handle it.

You've made that clear.

**mkrulic** · 01-10-2007, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by DemonicEinstein

and a better routine would be something like?

are you a body builder or a power lifter? either way you should isolate major muscle groups. I'll pm you my work out but I power lift. I think there is a forum here for this. All I know if you cant squat 3 to 4 times a week. if done properly once should be sufficient. same w/ deads and bench.

**mkrulic** · 01-10-2007, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

No...Don't take tren. You don't need it and you are not experienced enough to handle it.

You've made that clear.

I concur w/ this. save the tren for when youre at the end of your rope w/ gains.

**DemonicEinstein** · 01-10-2007, 05:41 PM

and how will you know what i can and cannot handle?, what is it about tren that will be difficult to handle?

**Hunter** · 01-10-2007, 05:43 PM

If you researched you would know Tren is a very serious drug. You would also know you should include(or at least keep on hand) bromo or caber, you would also know not to use nolva during cycle, etc. I doubt you knew any of these things. Thats why you should research alot more and perhaps pick a different drug to include in your cycle. Maybe trens little brother deca.

**mkrulic** · 01-10-2007, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by DemonicEinstein

and how will you know what i can and cannot handle?, what is it about tren that will be difficult to handle?

Its just not necessary at the stage your at. pick up a more serious routine and you will make your gains

**fLgAtOr** · 01-10-2007, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by DemonicEinstein

and how will you know what i can and cannot handle?, what is it about tren that will be difficult to handle?

Do not cop an attitude with me. I didnt' challege your ****ing manhood.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt earlier...When I asked you what your stats were. In the meantime, you've made it very clear that you are quite inexperienced with these three things:
Training
Steroids
Tren
...and in order to get to number 3, you have to know/be better at the first two.

**shrpskn** · 01-10-2007, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by DemonicEinstein

and how will you know what i can and cannot handle?, what is it about tren that will be difficult to handle?

Don't be ignorant...you really need to heed to the advice being given to you in this thread. There are very experienced and knowlegeable bros here and based on the posts you have made so far, you are displaying a real lack of knowledge on AAS use and associated properties.

Like I said in an earlier post, alot more research sounds like the best bet for you at this point in time.

Good luck,

**DemonicEinstein** · 01-10-2007, 05:58 PM

i didnt cop an attitude with you at all, i was just saying how will you know what i can and cannot handle, and i have read everything about tren that i can find, and thats why i am turning to you guys cuz i wanted opinions and advice so i dont end up hurting myself, and everything that i have read on tren doesnt exactly tell me what to take with it, like the tests and bromo. So i wanted to know all of that b4 doing anything, and sorry if u thought i was gettin an attitude wit u.

**DemonicEinstein** · 01-10-2007, 06:03 PM

This is all part of my research to help me understand it all

**fLgAtOr** · 01-10-2007, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by DemonicEinstein

i didnt cop an attitude with you at all, i was just saying how will you know what i can and cannot handle, and i have read everything about tren that i can find, and thats why i am turning to you guys cuz i wanted opinions and advice so i dont end up hurting myself, and everything that i have read on tren doesnt exactly tell me what to take with it, like the tests and bromo. So i wanted to know all of that b4 doing anything, and sorry if u thought i was gettin an attitude wit u.

It's all gravy baby.

I'm gonna find you some threads to read. Start there. You have to get a more solid foundation of "juicetelligence" before you jump into this shit. It can hurt you. And the name of the game around here is safety and health (or as much as possible).

**DemonicEinstein** · 01-10-2007, 06:09 PM

alright, appreciate it man

**fLgAtOr** · 01-10-2007, 06:12 PM

Heres the start...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=212234

**Venomous Nemisis** · 01-10-2007, 06:19 PM

Prop is good to run with the tren a

**SirusTheVirus** · 01-10-2007, 08:34 PM

Thats true, Prop is really good with tren, you could also try adding winny along with it. Make sure ur diet and training is good also, try whey protein like cytomax or solid whey and muscle milk with your meals

**DemonicEinstein** · 01-10-2007, 08:43 PM

Thanks man, ill look into that.....any truth to this...prop tren and winny good? and should i be drinkin whey protein also?

**Maldorf** · 01-10-2007, 08:44 PM

If you insist on running it, I would advise not to at this point, run it at about 50mg/day with ED injections. You can run just about anything with it, but test prop is a good choice because it should be shot ED too. Only bad thing about test prop is the injection pain, but mixing it with tren will help bring that down a bit.

**italianplayboy09** · 01-10-2007, 08:49 PM

[QUOTE=DemonicEinstein]Thanks man, ill look into that.....any truth to this...prop tren and winny good? and should i be drinkin whey protein also?[/QUOTE]
bro come on...

**DemonicEinstein** · 01-10-2007, 09:02 PM

i know its a dumb question, just makin sure man

**shrpskn** · 01-10-2007, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by DemonicEinstein

Thanks man, ill look into that.....any truth to this...prop tren and winny good? and should i be drinkin whey protein also?

You are really starting to sound bad in this thread...

Let's role play....

If I was you, I would stop asking these questions and go do some serious research. After I have absorbed information on the subject of proper AAS use and associated properties, to the point of exhuastion, I would then come back and ask more sensible questions.

But I am not you so this is what I will suggest:

Clearly there has not been enough research done here or you wouldn't be asking half of these questions, for example:
Should you be drinking whey protein? C'mon man, get real.

Bury your eyes in this to start off with:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=212234

Here is another good thread to soak up too:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=278759

I strongly advise you to take some time to extensively research this site before you do something you will ultimately regret.

Thank us later,

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