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    Need Help!!

    Ok so I need you guys to help me with my buddies cycle...

    ok his previous cycle was a 275mg andropen, and 100mg primo..(idk why) for ten weeks

    I dont think he should have been on it but w/e not my choice... Anyway he's got this new cycle that involves andropen. test E. and winstrol

    He wants to do his cycle like this:

    1-15 andropen/test E 275 or 250 test

    11-21 winstrol (3 shots of oral a week)
    Now with his test he only has 5 amps (again idk why) and will mix in the test with the adropen so he can have a 15 week cycle. His test is 250mg/ml. As for the winstrol I dont think he should run this for 10 weeks, or having this cycle going into 21 weeks. The 15 weeks is enough, but he is convinced through a friend AAS user (6+ cycles) who said that its ok to run the test 15 weeks at that dose and that winstrol will not affect his system by shuting him down and running it past the 15 weeks into 21 is ok.

    No am I wrong to think that its a bad idea?:

    1) to run the adropen/test for 15 weeks at 250-275 a week.
    2) that winny will shut him down and he is going to f*uck up his PCT and body if he runs it at week 11 thorugh 15 into 21 weeks.

    im going to send this forum post to him to give him the advice from true users that can shine some light here.
    Last edited by donberry427; 01-15-2007 at 02:12 AM.

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    I would say 10 wks is too long to run the winny and his dosing schedule is terrible, Winny should be dosed every day, not three times a week. I dont think running winny on its own is that bad but why does he want too? The only good reason I know of is that you are going to compete and you drop the test early due to water weight and keep running the winny to help you stay hard and ripped. However it could be good to run the winy a little longer than the test so pct can be started quickly after winny dose stops. so unless he is competing he should maybe try something like

    test 1-12
    winny 10-15 at least 50mg ED
    then can jump straight into pct after dropping winny.

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    So your saying its ok to run the winny after the cycle? I'm concerned about it not shuting down test production like test because if I dont have proof then he's gonna do the 15 weeks and to 21 with the winny...

    PS: this is his second cycle and he's trying to just get bigger and stronger...but I geuss he wants to have hard lean mass too...

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    ALSO is the andropen and test even worth running at 250-275? Wouldnt it be better to run say:

    275mg (1ml) Andropen
    250mg (1ml) Test E

    For 12 weeks?

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    Sorry to go off topic but is andropen good for beginners?

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    Bump

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    Come on guys I need help with my budds cycle... He goes on today..right now

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    Bumppppppppppp

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    Can I get anymore Info people...Sorry to be a pain but he's stubborn and im trying to help keep him safe becasue he's going to listen to the other guy rather than me becuase he has more experience...But I have the knowledge of the board ... So come on help a brotha out

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    I geuss its all newb's on right now...ill bump later to get a pro to answer

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    Bump... help please!

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    all these people on here...thousands of cycles...and no one can give me insight about the winstrol or the 15 week test E/andropen cycle...WTF?!?!

    O well geuss ill give him perfectbeasts post (thanks for your help bro) and hope he changes something up...

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