Hcg on cycle and my nuts still shrunk?

[bigfish]

I'm on week 3 of 600 mg of test E, 600 mg of eq and 300 mg of tren e. Ive been doing 250 ius of 2x a week hcg and my nuts are still tightin up. Even though they're tighting up can my own test still be working because of the hcg? I figured the the gear is I'm using would shut me down hard, and a lesser amount of gear I would probably be still hangng like normal. Just wanted everyones opinion. By the way i posted a pic of the hcg a couple of weeks ago and everyone said it was good.

[BOBBY D]

ive never used hcg, but i know that ur natural test production will demise once u introduce outside testosterone & compounds. HCG will bring back ur levels rather quickly when off gear, but while on gear & u are introducing HCG to ur body, ur balls i believe will still remain rather small because ur natural test production is being over powered by artificial test. JMO

[outlawtas]

Bobby, that's not what I found at all.

I used HCG on both my cycles and had only minimal testicular atrophy. One thing I noticed is that they would increase in size the days following an injection. I did notice a small amount shrinkage, but it was nothing that concerned me.

Bigfish, how much atrophy are we talking here? If it's significant, are you sure that you constituted/stored/injected your hcg properly?

[BOBBY D]

thanks outlaw, i am pretty un aware of HCG.. i personally dont see a purpose to use it during a cycle when proper pct would do the trick & clomid would bring them back to normal.. i read that some brothers here run towards the end of cycle..

[bigfish]

Bobby, that's not what I found at all.

I used HCG on both my cycles and had only minimal testicular atrophy. One thing I noticed is that they would increase in size the days following an injection. I did notice a small amount shrinkage, but it was nothing that concerned me.

Bigfish, how much atrophy are we talking here? If it's significant, are you sure that you constituted/stored/injected your hcg properly?

It's definitely not as bad as when I did a cycle without hcg usage (and that cycle had no tren). I And it also seems that they're not as tight as on the days when i inject; i inject as soon as I wake up. I just wanted to make sure the hcg could still be keeping mu nuts working a little while on cycle. Oh and I keep the hcg cold when storing it and inject subcuteous.

[bigfish]

thanks outlaw, i am pretty un aware of HCG.. i personally dont see a purpose to use it during a cycle when proper pct would do the trick & clomid would bring them back to normal.. i read that some brothers here run towards the end of cycle..

On longer cycles (over ten weeks) or with cycles with very suppressive gear such as tren it helps your full testl production come back faster during pct by way of keeping some of your normal test production during cycl thus minimize losses after the end of cycle. Dr.swale first used it with some of his patiences and got very good results.

This is my first time using it this way though.

[Pac8541]

I've been running 500iu's e4d throughout my current cycle that included deca @ 600mg/wk. Its definitely helped but I can also tell that I've still gotten a small amount of shrinkage. I'm following Anthony Roberts PCT immediately after this and have enough of everthing to run it twice if I need to. I'm taking all the time I need on this PCT...

[boxer08]

I know someone that dosen't even use clomid just leaves them return back to their normal size with nothing bit stupid ini

[stupidhippo]

i can tell my personal experience regarding HCG:

nuts grow in the matter of days.. never really had the PCT crash when using HCG mid way through to the end..

did them 2 weeks into PCT but after cessation of HCG my nuts shrank back.. nolva / clomid didnt maintain testicular function if still strongly suppressed...

next time Ill do HCG with nolva for longer and then keeep doing nolva after that... maybe do HCG like 1.5 months into PCT... after cessation of HCG in PCT I experienced a draastic drop in own test production (or felt like it at least).

[Pac8541]

did them 2 weeks into PCT but after cessation of HCG my nuts shrank back.. nolva / clomid didnt maintain testicular function if still strongly suppressed...

What kind of cycle did this PCT follow? What kinds of compounds were you runnning and for how long? I would rather not see this happen in my case and PCT is just a couple weeks off. Thanks.

[Swifto]

I like HCG during PCT. It seems to bring my labido back, even when not using Proviron to mask it.

For testicular mass you can use HCG when "on" or "shutdown" too. Thats if you suffer from testicular shrinkage?