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    Hey whats up fellas. Need some help here. My older bro is a 36 year old pilot in the Army on a current tour of duty in Balad, Iraq. He flies Blackhawks and flies pretty much every day. But he is on a really good workout program and he has lost alot of mass and wants to put some back on. He is taking some good supplements too. He sent me an email today asking for some help with his regimen. I changed up his workouts to a 3xweek lifting to allow for more recovery and higher intensity lifting. I decreased his cardio as well. He gets 3 pretty solid meals a day but there is not exactly a whole lot of food to just gorge and gain some good mass. I mean he can't exactly order up a 10- egg white omllette you know! I guess those guys over there get a few good supps from the px but I wanted to send him a care package with some other things in it too. This is why this question is in this forum:

    Now don't flame me for this, but I need to know if anybody here knows how those packages are checked if at all. I was thinking, JUST THINKING, of sending my bro some gear to help him out. If anyone has been paying attention to the news, you have noticed alot of copters being shot down lately. I think my bro loves to work out because it keeps his mind off of what shit is going down everyday. He has already lost 4 good friends of his over there. Eventhough he is in a middle of a war, it gets real boring over there when he is not flying so I think its great that he is workingout hard. Keeps his min d from wandering. He's married and has 3 kids.

    What do you guys think? I really love my brother and I'm just trying to help him out. Be honest. I was just thinking about maybe just sending him enough d-bol for a little 4 week cycle. I mean seriously what do you guys think? Any veterans out there with any experience with this? Is this a bad idea? Or should I just send him a huge supply of supps? I def don't want to get him in trouble. If I'm an asshole for thinking about sending him gear than just honestly let me know.

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    send him the myogenX supp.. that will increase his test...

    or repackage the dbol.. i don't like this alone, and it could end his career... so i'm going to stay with the recommendation f the myogenX... send 2 bottles so he can double up on the dose..
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard
    send him the myogenX supp.. that will increase his test...

    or repackage the dbol.. i don't like this alone, and it could end his career... so i'm going to stay with the recommendation f the myogenX... send 2 bottles so he can double up on the dose..
    That was exactly what I was going to do. I was going to throw the d-bol in a bottle of Milk Thistle since he would have to take that too if he was on the dbol. I'll look into the myogenX. Good input bro. Thanks!

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    Tell him thanks for his service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience
    Tell him thanks for his service.
    Thanks bro.

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    I think I would just send him supplements, its not worth the risk to send him the AAS. This tour wont be forever, and when he gets the hell out of there he can think about the AAS. I do see a lot of guys over there posting on here, and they talk like its not really hard to find AAS over there in Iraq. Some talked about going to local pharmacies. Even buying over there would be a risk for him though.

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    yah i agree, leave him hormone levels as they are while he is in Iraq.

    why mess him up,, he'll gain, than it will get tough, and he'll lose his gains, n etc..
    He might think he wants steroids, he might feel he wants some too, but.. if u seriously look at the situation, how dedicated can he really be, with a war raging all around him.
    Best to wait for him to get back home and have him decide than.

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    When I was there we had like 4 guys get caught with gear. Not worth it IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king6
    When I was there we had like 4 guys get caught with gear. Not worth it IMO.
    Got you. This is why I asked. Wasn't sure where the military stood on anabolics. Thanks for the input guys.

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    I'd put the d-bol in a herb. supp. bottle. In almost all cases, searching packages are up to commanders discretion. Since he's an officer I highly doubt he would get searched. The only likely way IMO he would get in trouble is if he stored it improperly or told someone.

    I recieved some Tbol from my sister for christmas. I got a big kick out of it. Just make sure you use good judgement when you ship it.

    Good luck to your brother.

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    You also mentioned that he doesnt have that great of an access to the kinds and quantities of foods he needs, if thats true the AAS wont do a whole lot for him anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldorf
    You also mentioned that he doesnt have that great of an access to the kinds and quantities of foods he needs, if thats true the AAS wont do a whole lot for him anyhow.
    Great point.

    I wasn't for sure about the military opinion on the stuff cause my bro trained side by side in Ft Hood, TX with some Army Rangers and they used gear. (Not all of them by any means, but more than a few) Maybe Special Ops and pilots are different.

    But you guys are right. I'm just going to stick to some good supps.

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    I just sent some to 3 of my friends over there. PM me man.

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    Here is a piece of the email my bro sent me this morning. As you can see he works out pretty hard. I have sent him a more mass building type workout plan as well as a good sample diet. I told him to just lift 3 times a week in order to get more rest, therefore more growth. Lower reps and medium to high weight. I also advised him to increase the carb intake a little, good carbs of course. I was thinking about sending him a good weightgainer to down after training as well as a big supply of mrp's. Maybe a prohormone. this post can probably moved to another forum now. Anyways here is what he wrote:


    Here is where I need your expertise:

    I have been working out a lot, mainly to get back in shape, and lose some weight, get my cholestoral back in line and blood pressure. Here is where I am at:

    I have lost about 30 pounds since I got in country from 205 to about 177 lbs.

    I have toned up quite a bit, and have gotten my body fat down a lot. I made great gains but now I am at the plateau, and it is just plain hard work to get the rest off. No problem, but here is where I need the help.

    I work out every day, from 0400 to about 0730. I usually do about 20-30 minutes on the bike first to warm up, then I do my workout. Day 1 - Shoulders, Day 2 Arms, Day 3 Quads, Day 4 Back Day 5 Hamstrings, Day 6 Chest and then Start over. I started off originally with 4 sets of 12-15 reps, fairly light weight. The problem is now that I have worked out a lot, I have stayed at about the same weight for the last two months. I have the definition, but now I want the mass. So I have started doing less cardio, maybe 10 minutes of bike to start off, and then 3 sets but using heavier weight. I want to get up to 190 lbs of lean mass by the time I get home in August. That is about 1.5 lbs of muscle a month on a regular schedule. Not out of the question, but it will be hard. I know that Diet and nutrition is 50% of this. I eat three small meals a day, and drink on average two protein drinks a day (Meterex), one protein bar, and one Creatine drink after workout. I take a multivitamin, Aminos, and eat a lot of fruit, vegetables, and chicken and meat. I stay away from most breads and fried foods. I knoiw you are an expert at this stuff, and I could use some advise on this. I have the time and environment to do this here, as I will not when I get back, so whatever gains I get here, all I have to do is to maintain at home. I could use any help on type of workout and supplement advise you have, since you worked at a GNC. I have limited availalbilty of supplements here, but a good supplement plan would help, or mix of supplements to reach that goal.

    I am in great health, and I do not think I have been in this good a shape since my late teens. Your advise would be greatly appreciated

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    Never mind on the gear dude, He doesnt need it I think you will be able to help him on this one at 1.5lbs a month. Have him send his diet to you and critique it, thats going to be the biggest thing. Iraq is where alot of my friends and me put on the most mass. And the px's there have all the stuff you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhriscerr
    Never mind on the gear dude, He doesnt need it I think you will be able to help him on this one at 1.5lbs a month. Have him send his diet to you and critique it, thats going to be the biggest thing. Iraq is where alot of my friends and me put on the most mass. And the px's there have all the stuff you need.
    Cool bro! Thanks

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    No gear IMO. Think about his schedule. Especially if you were considering a daily one. He can very easily miss doses if something happens and he is on a shift for 36 hours, which can happen.

    Also think of sterility. Iraq is a nasty place and (depending on his specific duty station) it may be difficult for him to get and store all of the supplies he needs to keep sterile in a place they won't be disturbed.

    As for the legal, it doesn't matter if he has no idea you're sending it. If the package has his name and address on it and it has gear he goes down for it, and they don't **** around with fines and misdemeanors like here.

    That's my arguement for no gear. Now to attempt to be helpful. He's on the go, so he needs calories on the go. Think bars. I know they aren't the cheapest or best source but he can carry them in his flight suit or wherever he goes. No chocolate coating, melting sucks. Tri-Oplex may be a good idea. Loaded with calories, the downside being the soy isolate. Ostrim could be a good quick snack.

    Any other supps think dosages. Try to get him some things he can take irregularly, skip doses, or just once a day and it will work. Dosing problems will occur.

    And I know it has been said already, but tell him thank you from me also.

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    you can buy gear at pharmacies in town. I knew about some Recon guys that got busted....but that's cuz they were bragging about it.

    You can send it out in the mail to him. They don't check it

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowt2
    No gear IMO. Think about his schedule. Especially if you were considering a daily one. He can very easily miss doses if something happens and he is on a shift for 36 hours, which can happen.

    Also think of sterility. Iraq is a nasty place and (depending on his specific duty station) it may be difficult for him to get and store all of the supplies he needs to keep sterile in a place they won't be disturbed.

    As for the legal, it doesn't matter if he has no idea you're sending it. If the package has his name and address on it and it has gear he goes down for it, and they don't **** around with fines and misdemeanors like here.

    That's my arguement for no gear. Now to attempt to be helpful. He's on the go, so he needs calories on the go. Think bars. I know they aren't the cheapest or best source but he can carry them in his flight suit or wherever he goes. No chocolate coating, melting sucks. Tri-Oplex may be a good idea. Loaded with calories, the downside being the soy isolate. Ostrim could be a good quick snack.

    Any other supps think dosages. Try to get him some things he can take irregularly, skip doses, or just once a day and it will work. Dosing problems will occur.

    And I know it has been said already, but tell him thank you from me also.
    You make good points bro. Thanks . And thanks again for respecting what my bro and all those other guys are doing. That is really the best thing you can do for them is just take a minute here and there and just think about their sacrifice.

    I think I will load him up on the bars. Get him a good weightgainer too and as someone else said, FOOD.

    He actually gets a two week leave in march and he will be coming back to Texas for a few weeks and I plan on seeing him. Maybe then I will discuss the "gear" option with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28
    you can buy gear at pharmacies in town. I knew about some Recon guys that got busted....but that's cuz they were bragging about it.

    You can send it out in the mail to him. They don't check it
    All I have to say is, don't do it. Don't recommend someone buy it locally. I was 0231 in the corps and you cant trust the shit you buy. You're gonna buy gear from people that want you dead, not smart.

    They check suspicious packages randomly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatback25
    Here is a piece of the email my bro sent me this morning. As you can see he works out pretty hard. I have sent him a more mass building type workout plan as well as a good sample diet. I told him to just lift 3 times a week in order to get more rest, therefore more growth. Lower reps and medium to high weight. I also advised him to increase the carb intake a little, good carbs of course. I was thinking about sending him a good weightgainer to down after training as well as a big supply of mrp's. Maybe a prohormone. this post can probably moved to another forum now. Anyways here is what he wrote:


    Here is where I need your expertise:

    I have been working out a lot, mainly to get back in shape, and lose some weight, get my cholestoral back in line and blood pressure. Here is where I am at:

    I have lost about 30 pounds since I got in country from 205 to about 177 lbs.

    I have toned up quite a bit, and have gotten my body fat down a lot. I made great gains but now I am at the plateau, and it is just plain hard work to get the rest off. No problem, but here is where I need the help.

    I work out every day, from 0400 to about 0730. I usually do about 20-30 minutes on the bike first to warm up, then I do my workout. Day 1 - Shoulders, Day 2 Arms, Day 3 Quads, Day 4 Back Day 5 Hamstrings, Day 6 Chest and then Start over. I started off originally with 4 sets of 12-15 reps, fairly light weight. The problem is now that I have worked out a lot, I have stayed at about the same weight for the last two months. I have the definition, but now I want the mass. So I have started doing less cardio, maybe 10 minutes of bike to start off, and then 3 sets but using heavier weight. I want to get up to 190 lbs of lean mass by the time I get home in August. That is about 1.5 lbs of muscle a month on a regular schedule. Not out of the question, but it will be hard. I know that Diet and nutrition is 50% of this. I eat three small meals a day, and drink on average two protein drinks a day (Meterex), one protein bar, and one Creatine drink after workout. I take a multivitamin, Aminos, and eat a lot of fruit, vegetables, and chicken and meat. I stay away from most breads and fried foods. I knoiw you are an expert at this stuff, and I could use some advise on this. I have the time and environment to do this here, as I will not when I get back, so whatever gains I get here, all I have to do is to maintain at home. I could use any help on type of workout and supplement advise you have, since you worked at a GNC. I have limited availalbilty of supplements here, but a good supplement plan would help, or mix of supplements to reach that goal.

    I am in great health, and I do not think I have been in this good a shape since my late teens. Your advise would be greatly appreciated

    Check it out bro!! i am in afghanistan now ( trust me its just as bad here in the south you just dont here about it) if you want to send him gear you can just no more that one injectable and one oral for the sake of convenience in hiding. he is a pilot= officer above 03 no one will **** with that. i will have gear here soon BUT!!! its a var only cycle i got some tren and test but on the advice of a friend im not having it sent. i dont want 1000 pins around. but read what your brother wrote " have been working out a lot, mainly to get back in shape, and lose some weight, get my cholestoral back in line and blood pressure" AAS will not help BP or blood lipids!!!! my advice being in HIS shoes is he could but with his goals he should wait till he gets home. just my 2 cents bro!! tell him to kick some ass for me. thanx

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    As far as how the packages are gone through before they get to the troops, I think your brother can answer that question best. I wouldnt send any ASS to him though as the man has enough to think about.
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    personally, i think all military guys should be as juiced as they want. i feel the same for cops and firemen, think about it. if your house is on fire, who do you want trying to carry you out? and who would you rather pick you up if your wounded in iraq? i prefer the juiced up 300 pound dude who squats 600 pounds personally. too bad it's the way it is. be carefull...peace

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