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    1st Cycle: Age 38 IT'S ON!

    A week into it now, strength going up, pumps like crazy! Not really that was just in my head.

    Cycle:
    Week 1: Sust 250mg eod starting last Wednesday for a 1000mg frontload and to get some fast acting prop in my system

    Weeks 2-10: Test Cyp 400mg/week

    May add some winnie last 4 weeks at 50mg eod, we'll see. Or just save it for my next cycle.

    PCT: Plenty of Clomid and Nolvadex on hand.

    Stats:
    38 y.o.
    5' 9"
    175 lbs
    BF 11%

    I understand my size isn't up to bodybuilding standards but I've been sports training for 20+ years, weights included and recently got into boxing but am doing a cycle in the off season to add some quality mass.

    Will try to keep all us old guys posted on my progress.
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    At a boy. I started back at 34. I was feeling like shit and tired and getting soft. Now I cycle and cruise the rest of the time. HCG. Right now cutting with low does of test e and tren a. Sure nice to feel strong and viable again.

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    keep us updated, and good luck.

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    Test flu absolutely kicked my arse. I mean bad. Could barely make it to work let alone the gym (still forced myself though.)

    Think I'm pretty much over it now, felt OK today. Still want to live on whey shakes though?

    Anyway, even after that mess of shite still actually gaining.

    Weight: 180#
    Pure strength hasn't increased, that I can tell (though I haven't really tested it.)

    BUT. My 8 rep weights have gone up bigtime. I don't go below that now cause the pump is the shiite

    Anyway, the flu was a downer but I bet I'll be pleased with the rest. Tee Hee.

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    Oh forgot to add. Dropped the Cyp. back to 400mg/wk after the awsome flu experience. Shouldv'e take other's advice and not done that frontload.

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    No offense and I don't disagree with you cycling but 20+ years of training and you tapped out at 175lbs?

    Either your diet/training or both are way off, otherwise you must not have been lifting or dedicated consistantly over the years.

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    Thumbs up

    Best of luck to you. I did my first at 38 as well and it was an education on many fronts. I'm here to stay probably for the rest of my life at one level or another. Nice feeling like you used, isn't it? Take nothing for granted...

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    Quote Originally Posted by I**mfkr
    No offense and I don't disagree with you cycling but 20+ years of training and you tapped out at 175lbs?

    Either your diet/training or both are way off, otherwise you must not have been lifting or dedicated consistantly over the years.
    No, not 20 years of dedicated bodybuiling other sports also. Boxing being the most recent. Still lifted but man I dare anyone to gain mass boxing and running 5 days a week. When I first got into it big time I was 149 lbs!

    Test flu (or real flu) is pretty much over and time for some real training.

    Current Stats Week 3:
    180 lbs. up 5 lbs even with the flu
    Strength up, but especially my recovery time between sets, I feel like I don't need any recovery time at all.
    Last edited by superluckycat; 12-28-2006 at 10:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearhead007
    Stay with it. I did my first cycle at 38.

    Good luck!
    Right on.

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    Day 20

    Weight: 180 lbs

    Just took a shot, don't see what the big effing deal is, easy as pie. Anyway:
    Flu over. Trying to eat more food instead of 8 whey shakes a day.

    Lunch: Ran 2 miles

    P.M. Chest & (Light) Arms:

    Incline Bench: WU 185x5 225x5 245x3 225x4
    DB Slight incline bench: 70x5 80x5 90x5 75x6
    Hammer wide press: 225x8 225x8 275x8
    Incline Flyes: 45x8 45x8
    Dips: 10 10 10 10 Deeep!
    Superset with
    B Bell Curls: 4x12

    Felt freakin great. New PR for inclines.

    Later,

    the lucky cat
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    Pretty sore from working chest yesterday.

    Diet: Getting better after flu. Getting about 350g protien/day + 3000 cals

    Back Tonight - No run at lunch

    Wide Pull Ups: 3x8 slow stretch warm up
    reverse grip bent rows: 10x115 8x135 8x155 7x185
    narrow grip pullups: 3x8
    Hammer Strength low row: 3x8 205
    Deadlifts: 8x135 8x205 and that was plenty

    Trying to swallow my ego and really concentrate on form. You can just feel feel those target muscles pumping up. I'm diggin' it

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic99
    At a boy. I started back at 34. I was feeling like shit and tired and getting soft. Now I cycle and cruise the rest of the time. HCG. Right now cutting with low does of test e and tren a. Sure nice to feel strong and viable again.
    I'm doing a similar cutting/sports/strength oriented cycle this spring. I was thinking Test, Winny and something else, and suggestions welcome.

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    Weight 182
    So sore.
    Can definitely notice some good size gains, especially in my arms and shoulders.
    No gyno zits or other bs, yet.
    Not retaining much water, yet.

    No run today again. I noticed I'm definitely putting on some fat around my gut. But I went from at least an hour of hard cardio a day to about sheeyit right now. Oh well "I'm bulking"

    Shoulders & Arms (Light)

    Side Laterals: 15x15 20x12 30x8 30x8 warm up
    Machine shoulder press: 4x8-10 (weight means shit on those things)
    Bent rear lateral raises: 4x12-15 w/ 15 pounders good form
    Superset with:
    Dumbell lying tri ext: 20x15 30x10 30x10 30x10
    Front Lat Raises: 4x8-10 w/20's
    SupSet w/
    Machine Preachers: 4x8 (again weight means shit, just the burn)

    Quick and dirty workout.

    Later
    Last edited by superluckycat; 12-28-2006 at 10:27 PM.

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    Weight: 184
    Starting to hold some water.
    Still no gyno.

    Thursday:
    Lunch: Boxer jog w/ rope skipping and sit ups - 30 mins
    Night: Legs
    Smith Squats: 4x12 135
    Machine leg press: 3x12 200
    Leg Ext: 2x12
    Leg Curl: 2x10
    Romanian Dead Lift: 10-95 12-135
    Seated Calf: 2x15 180

    Took a shot last night. Feel kind of fluey and strung out this morning.

    Later

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    Do you have any anti-estrogen stuff on hand i.e. Liquidex from Lion. That might keep you from bloating up real bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motobro
    Do you have any anti-estrogen stuff on hand i.e. Liquidex from Lion. That might keep you from bloating up real bad.
    Just Nolva & Clomid. I was really lean before this cycle. My family will notice at x-mas but its not that noticeable, YET. And I have bulked in the past.

    Must be that newer better creatine.

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    ethylene ester.....right!
    Powerful stuff

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    Yesterday: Off

    Weight: 185 up 10 since start

    Saturday:

    Shoulders/Arms - Heavy

    Smith Machine Military Press: WU 135x8 185x6 205x5 225x3
    Seated D. Bell Press: 5x50 5x60 5x70
    Machine Shoulder Press: 3x8 110
    Lying Tricep Extensions: WU 8x75 8x95 6x105 6x105
    Superset with
    EZ Bar Curls: WU 8x75 6x95 5x105 5x105

    Still trying to maintain excellent form and feel the pump.

    Just over a month now and it seems to be working. Up 10 in weight and all my lifts are definitely going up. Can't wait till it really kicks in.

    Plus, is it just me or can women smell Test on you? I've been a popular boy lately.

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    mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by I**mfkr
    No offense and I don't disagree with you cycling but 20+ years of training and you tapped out at 175lbs?

    Either your diet/training or both are way off, otherwise you must not have been lifting or dedicated consistantly over the years.

    let him cycle, old bastard is almost dead anyways,hahahhaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by stayinstacked
    let him cycle, old bastard is almost dead anyways,hahahhaha
    You could possibly be proven quite mistaken if we ever got in the the ring and threw some hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by superluckycat
    You could possibly be proven quite mistaken if we ever got in the the ring and threw some hands
    LET'S GIT' IT ON!!! I'm just playing man, good luck with your cycle, and no your not old

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    My first long ass post never posted. Great.

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    Tue 12/26 - Chest & Back Superset

    Incline Bench Press: 8-135 8-135 5-185 5-205 7-225
    SS with:
    Lat Pull Downs: 5x12-7 weight: till I got a good pump

    Reverse Grip Bent Rows: 12-95 8-135 8-135 7-185
    SS with:
    Dips: 12 12 10-25 8-35

    Hammer Strength Wide Press: 8x225 6x275
    SS with:
    Narrow Grip Pull Ups: 8 8

    Hammer Strength Bench: 225 by 1 or 2 135 x 15
    SS with:
    Hammer Strength Low Rows: 225x8 225x8

    Needless to say; crazy pump. Thought I was going to explode. Always been one my favorite workouts.

    Later

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    Wed 12/27

    Weight: 188 lbs. up 13 lbs in 5 weeks

    Start of 5th week. The test is really kicking in. Appetite coming back with a vengeance. No gyno. Feel a little bloated, though.

    Family commented on my size gains at x-mas. My sister said: "Your arms and neck are huge!" I doubt anyone even had a clue though.

    Bombed out from yesterdays workout. That one's a killer.

    Wednesday: Shoulders & Arms (Light)

    Giant Set. No rest between exercises:

    Dumbell Side Lateral Raises: 8-8-10-12 20lbs
    Machine Shoulder Press: 8-8-6-6 weight: medium weight
    Tricep Pushdowns: 5x10-15 medium weight
    Machine Preacher Curl: 5x8-12 medium weight

    Dumb Bell Bent Lateral Raises: 3x15 15lbs
    SS With:
    Front Lateral Raises: 3x8 15lbs

    Its hard to force yourself not to overtrain, I definitely could have kept going then paid for the next day of course.

    Later

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    Started 10mg Nolva tonight. Will take till the bloat goes away. I felt like a lard-ass bloated trucker right after the buffet at Denny's. Bloat's too much and I want absolutely no chance of gyno. I'll take the chance of sacrificing some gains instead. ]

    I'm gaining mass more for sports than bodybuilding. And to look good. Oh wait, that is bodybuilding.

    Later
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    Thursday 12/28

    Weight: 188lbs

    Drank and stayed up late doing bad things last night, so feeling less than stellar today.

    Legs:
    Smith Squats: 15 12 8x135 8x185 6x225
    Machine Leg Press: 10x205 12x205
    Leg Extensions: 2x10
    SS with
    Leg Curls: 2x10
    Romanian Deadlift: 10x95 12x135
    Seated Calf: 3x15 180lbs

    Now time to die.

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    Thursday: 12/28
    Test Cyp: 200mg
    Nolva: 10mg
    Crack: 2 grams for weight cutting. Just seeing if you're reading this boring shit.

    MMMMM! Test Good!

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    Friday 12/29

    Weight: 186lbs The nolva may be cutting some water already?

    Shoulders & Arms - Heavy:

    Smith Mil Press: WU 8x135 8x185 3x225
    DB Press: 8x50 6x60 6x70 7x70
    Machine Shoulder Press: 3x8 110lbs
    Lying Tricep Extension: WU 10x75 8x95 8x95 6x115
    Superset with:
    EZ Bar Curl: WU 8x75 6x95 6x95 5x115
    Rear Delt Machine: 3x10 110lbs

    Feeling a lot bigger and stronger.

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    keep it up! I'm 35 and teetering on the fence as to do it or not. I have always gotten by on my diet, and some cheap HGH. Keep us posted!

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    Monday 1/1/07

    Weight: 188lbs

    Chest:

    Incline B Bell Bench: 2x8-135 5-185 5-205 3-245 6-225
    15 Deg. Inc. D Bell Bench: 6-70 5-80 5-90 6-80
    Hammer Wide Presses: 8-160 8-210 7-260
    Dips: 8 8 8 8
    Superset with:
    B Bell Curls: 4x10

    Not outstanding, but I'll take it.

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    test is cool im 36 and like u im lovin it and so is my women..............good luck to u .

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    55 years old

    i powerlifted for26 years 148s and 165s drug free. i did my firet cycle 3 years ago, my friends at the gym said dad, do a 12 week cycle of sus 250, thats a starter cycle. twice a week 250mg. my god, it was the best thing ive ever done. nothing happoned for almost 2 weeks then shit it was on. since then ive thied single blend test and it is not the same as s250. i did s250 for 10 weeksthen stopped. did not even use nolvadex, never had no sex problems. thanks jwandmore

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    no problems here either.

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    Bro, There are older guys on here than you by far! But the best advise I can give is get a baseline bloodwork done before you cycle. Its always best to know where you are at before ya start this stuff, so when you are off and recovering you know where you should be. Good Luck and stay safe.

    MJ

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    Tue 1/2/07 - Off

    Wed 1/3/07

    Weight: 186lbs

    10 mg Nolva this morning, trying eod, seems to be working.

    Lunch: Cardio

    20 mins: Shadow box jog; superset with 4 x 30 crunches x 1 min rope skipping. About an 1/8 mile jog between sets. Throwing constant combinations while running. Takes the piss out of you fast.

    Night: Back/Box/Cardio

    Still really concentrating on form and burn. Deflates your ego quick. I can ususally do 15 decent form pull ups minimum.

    Wide Grip Pull Ups: 4 x 8 deep stretch, slow, hold at the top, oh yeah
    Reverse Grip Bent Rows: 8-135, 8-135, 6-185, 8-185
    Narrow Grip Pull Ups: 6, 6, 5x25lbs
    Smith Low Rows: 8-205, 8-225, 8-255
    Dead Lifts: 8-135, 6-185, 8-225

    BOX: Keeping it easy

    12.5 mins - moderately intense 2 min on 30 sec off
    2 Rounds Shadow
    3 Rounds Heavy bag. Throwing repeated power combinations for some intense cardio

    Puffing like an 18 year old. Man my cardio has went to shit. To bad you can't have the best of both worlds.

    Man do I cramp on this shit. My hands, hams, whatever.

    Strength still going up nicely.

    Appetite still not the best. Just stuffing it down then feeling ill.

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    Thursday 1/4/07

    Weight: 188lbs

    Lunch: 12 mins jogging and shadow boxing

    Night: Legs

    Bike: 5 min WU
    Smith Squats WU: 8x135, 8x135, 10x135, 15x135
    Leg Press: 225x15 315x10 405x8
    Romanian Deadlift: 8x95, 8x135, 8x135
    Leg Extensions: 12x130, 12x150
    Superset with:
    Leg Curls: 10x50, 10x70
    Seated Calf Raises: 5x12
    Bike: 4x30 second all-out standing intervals on the hardest setting with 1 minute recovery time between. PUMPVILLE.

    A little sore today.

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    Friday 1/5/07: Off

    Saturday 1/6/07

    Weight: Forgot to weigh myself at the gym

    Night: Shoulders & Arms

    Shoulders:

    Smith Machine Military Press: WU 8x135 8x135 6x185 6x205 5x225
    Seateed Dumb Bell Press: 8x50 6x60 6x60 (Shldrs already fried from militarys)
    Rear Delt Machine: 8x120 8x130 8x140
    Superset With
    D Bell Side Lateral Raise: 8x25 8x25 8x25

    Arms:

    Lying Tricep Extensions: WU 10x75 8x95 8x95
    Superset With
    EZ bar Curls: WU 7x75 6x95 6x95
    Cable Tricep Pushdowns: 3x8 80 pounds
    SS With
    D. Bell Curls: 3x5 40 pounders

    The pumps get so intense to the point of being painful when I work the smaller muscle groups. That's when I decide I've done enough sets.

    One thing I have learned at my age: Less is usually more when it comes to weight training. I prefer intensity over volume. I sweat like a whore and pant like a dog I also take 30 to 90 second breaks between sets depending on the exercise.

    Later Bro's

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