HGH and Enthnate Test stack

[bigguy315]

just got it from a doctor perscribed to me due to my low levels he told me i should not expect to lose any size or strength when i come off the cycle because its only raisng my levels to the normal thereshold and not above! Do you think this is truly the case and also i was told i probably wont retain any water do u think this oculd also be true?
here is the acutal cycle.

70 days
every 3days take a 300 or 200 mg Enthanate shot it varies as well as a Stanzolol RD tablet to decrease estrogen.

every day take 2.5 iu's of HGH

once a week a shot of Nandralone 300 to 250 to 200 mg for ligament strength

towards the back half of the 70 days i will be on .5mg of Anastrozlole every 3 days as well as the above mentioned test and HgH Doses

Clomid, HCG, and Bromocriptine for the last leg of the cycle what yall think?

[Maldorf]

[QUOTE=bigguy315]just got it from a doctor perscribed to me due to my low levels he told me i should not expect to lose any size or strength when i come off the cycle because its only raisng my levels to the normal thereshold and not above! Do you think this is truly the case and also i was told i probably wont retain any water do u think this oculd also be true?[QUOTE]

As far as it only raising you blood levels to where they should be, that dose youll be taking is quite a bit higher than a standard HRT dose. Most HRT programs go for about 250 mg shot once every 2 weeks from what ive read. I also believe that I read the average male produces maybe 50mg of test per week, so thats way under what youre looking at. Now if youre using 400 mg of test enathate its not equal to 400 mg of test, its less because of the weight of the ester; but it would still be much higher than 50mg for the week. You very well might crash at the end of that cycle if the PCT doesnt work right. My very first cycle was just 500 mg/wk of test cyp, and I ended up getting water retention. Everyone is different, but I would say there is a good chance you would since youre not taking an AI the entire time. Not sure why youre going to take it just the last part of the cycle.

[SMAN12b]

10 weeks of HGH will do absolutely NOTHING for you!! the minimum you need to run it is 6 months to see results and 2.5ius is on the low dose end

Stanzolol, Winny, is NOT for estrogen reduction and I would not recomend it for 10 weeks as it is a harsh oral on the liver
Nandrolane (deca) should end 1 to 2 weeks before the test so that you PCT times work out correctly

Not sure what your goals are here, but this does not sound like HRT doses or an HRT cycle

[bigguy315]

What do you mena by crash at the end of the Cycle if my PCT dosent work?

[bigguy315]

oh and also as far as coming of the cycle do u think ill lose size and more importantly STREGNTH after its all said and done i was told that i wouldnt?

[Maldorf]

What do you mena by crash at the end of the Cycle if my PCT dosent work?

Meaning that your natural test production may not be back to normal and you will lose size and strength. Those doses you are looking at can defintely shut your production down, so a good PCT would be important.

[bigguy315]

ahh ok i got ya, yeah well my dad did the exact same Cycle same doses and everything and hes about the closest thing to me we could find and he didnt retain any water he gained tons of weight muscle of course and he hasnt lost anything from the cycle atleast not that i can see? so if we are anything alike i think everything should go ok, and im told the PCT is a very good one its high doses of everything!?

[bigguy315]

if the Pct does go great and restores my levels back to normal then should i expect any losses?

[Maldorf]

if the Pct does go great and restores my levels back to normal then should i expect any losses?

Yeah thats right, especially if you havent built up a lot of muscle over a long period of time and reached your "genetic limit". Ive been lifting for over 21 years now and using AAS for maybe 8 yrs, and when I go off its a bitch to keep most of the gains. When I first started it wasnt so hard though. Just keep in mind that the doses you are using are much much higher than what a man would produce naturally, and that there is a risk of losing some of your gains. You will lose weight, that is certain. Most of the weight though will be water. I guage my loss mostly by my strength in the gym. If that drops off, then I can fairly say that Ive lost muscle tissue.

You do have to keep up your diet habits and hard work in the gym too, or you will lose some. Too many young guys go on a cycle and Ill see them at the gym every night when I am there, but once they go off cycle you wont see them much at all.

[bigguy315]

yea i got! u but this program is designed to riase my test to normal levels so then when i come off it the will be higher than they were b4 i statrted, since they were real low to begin with do u see what im saying or is it confusin? Thus ill keep makin gains atlest comapred to what i was making with the older levels of test! does that make sense?

[Kokaine]

I Am So Tired Of People Saying That B*s About 6 Months Of Growth Hormone Or More.i Am Halfway Thru My First Kit And Boy Does It Work.any Gh Is Better Than No Gh.no Tren,clen,winstrol,anavar Ect Will Ever Let You Grow While Getting Ripped Like Gh Does.(combined With Aas Of Course)so For Those Of You Who Haven't Tried It ,go For It, You'll Love Yourself For Doing It

[gym lord]

I Am So Tired Of People Saying That B*s About 6 Months Of Growth Hormone Or More.i Am Halfway Thru My First Kit And Boy Does It Work.any Gh Is Better Than No Gh.no Tren,clen,winstrol,anavar Ect Will Ever Let You Grow While Getting Ripped Like Gh Does.(combined With Aas Of Course)so For Those Of You Who Haven't Tried It ,go For It, You'll Love Yourself For Doing It

i do love myself for doing it, been on it about 2 months, and got enough supply for about 6 more, so i can love myself for getting the full effect of it ... actually plan on staying on it most of the rest of my life, and love myself for the rest of my life ... i'm an old man pushin big weight around ... thas just the way i am ... luvin a buncha big titty women too ... woo hoo

[gym lord]

some pretty knowledgeable and experienced people recommending long term use of "growth" to get the FULL BENEFIT ... think about it

[bigguy315]

personally i think that it depends on your age, the amount of HGH that you have in your body from natural production, and the length of the cycle! if your levels are low like in my case and you take them the effects will be much more noticible due to the fact that your going from very low levels to very high levels. Put it this way i had the growth hormone level of an 80 year old man haha but after the cycle it should be restored to a 20 something year old so you see thats a huge shock and major effects will be noticed.

[Maldorf]

yea i got! u but this program is designed to riase my test to normal levels so then when i come off it the will be higher than they were b4 i statrted, since they were real low to begin with do u see what im saying or is it confusin? Thus ill keep makin gains atlest comapred to what i was making with the older levels of test! does that make sense?

thing is, your test levels will be many times the normal when youre on. Once you go off you will eventually, after a matter of a few weeks, return to your old test blood levels. Its during this time that you will lose many of the gains you made while on. It sounds like youre trying to make this a once shot deal, or are you looking at cycling more in the future?

If youre looking for HRT, they will have you take a much lower dose and do it the rest of your life.

[bigguy315]

here is what my doc told me he said, this cycle is designed to shock your body or your endocrine system into producing levels of a normal person my age! so yea when i get off it my levels will go down but when they go down hopefully what this is designed to do anyways is to shock my system into thinking "oh his levels are low and thus my body will produce its test again but on a higher level then ever b4, and hopefully ill be on the high end of normal. Now if it dosent work the first time then yea im doin another cycle!

[Crest]

so ur docs playing hit and hope with your hormones haha nice solid advice from the doctor .... dont know why but this thread smells like something

[bigguy315]

no its going to be a hit atleast eventually just a matter of time and hopefully soon

[Maldorf]

no its going to be a hit atleast eventually just a matter of time and hopefully soon

As far as I know, it doesnt work that way. The extra test you are taking will suppress your own natural production, and when you come off it will stay low unless the pct works. If pct works youll get back to the levels you had before you started, not higher. ive never heard of such a thing as shocking your body into make more test by taking test.

[bigguy315]

well idk this is what the man told me, my dad had the same problem and did the same cycle and his body is creating more test but hes also 46 im only 17 so who knows?

[kynetguy]

well idk this is what the man told me, my dad had the same problem and did the same cycle and his body is creating more test but hes also 46 im only 17 so who knows?

So THAT is what stinks in here. . . .

Your doctor ever consider your age and maybe you are a late bloomer and you haven't fully kicked into puberty yet?

I think this is a bogus thread.

No doctor who has any hormone and endocrine expirience would put a 17 y/o on a "cycle" to shock their system. You MIGHT get a few injections of hCG out of the deal, but not a cycle ABOVE HRT levels. You are just a boy. . .your body isnt even done developing yet.

A cycle is going to SUPRESS your endogenous test, not "kick start it."

Someone has to do this, so I will . . .

[Crest]

oi i beat u 2 that !

[bigguy315]

nah man why would i come on here and bullshit everyone i had a legitimate question and i thought this would be the place to go but i guess not?!

[Ufa]

You are to young to post here. Come back when you are over 18.

[bigguy315]

Ufa can go ****a yourself! come back when you feel like supplying some useful information you prick!