Critique (deca and tren?)

[goth717]

i am 5 10 and weigh 195lbs 12%bf

diet is in check.. i have done 2 cycles and have used tren in my second..
due to injury i lost alot of what i gained... due to a baseball injury.. didnt allow me to work out.
would this work well for my 3rd cycle?

weeks 1-13 Sust 750mgs/wk
weeks 1-11 Deca 400mgs/wk
weeks 4-11 Tren 75mg/ed
weeks 9-13 winni 50mg/ed

[goth717]

anyone?

[sean007smith]

ide loose the winni if your trying to gain back ur bulk but im not an expert

[odix]

i think your cycle looks good but i would bump the deca to 600mg/week.


**oh sorry, before everyone rains on your parade, add dostinex/cabergoline in your cycle, and letro, letro will help with PROG sides as with the other two chems i mentioned. Again I ran these two compounds (deca/tren) with just letro and did just fine. Besides that looks good bro.

[goth717]

wouldnt the winni help towards the end?

[goth717]

anyone?

[theboss]

thats alot of gear for a 3rd cycle...what were your 1st 2 like ?

[goth717]

1st cycle was test e and eq

2nd was prop , tren, deca

[ironkop]

hmmm
i do NOT like the idea of decca and tren together for that long but then again I do not do well with progesterone related sides! However winny does have a habit of minimizing some of them. You will be shut down pretty hard after that one.
dont run all 4 cmpds for wks 9-11 then drop them off at wk 11 and conitue on w 2 of the 4!
IMHO go
1-10 test E 750 wk 11-15 test E 500 drop to 500 because no need to have so many mg in you when win and fina kick in
1-10 decca 400 decca usually is best over a longer duration
9-15 tren 75 mg/day ou dont need to run tren as long as you wanted sides can be harsh esp on kidneys
11-15 50 mg win ed

Im not a fan of low doses but this is only ur third cycle so no need to realy ramp up total mg also I am an advocate of frontloading so def go in wk 1 1500 trest e and 800 decca

[goth717]

its not test e its actually sust... but why would i run the winni and tren longer then the sust and deca? im gonna need to have that sust in there so i wont shut down right?

[ironkop]

sust or ent it still should be frontloaded and sust actually has more active test in it per molecule weight so that is even better!
well tren is very toxic and win is also since it is 17 aa. no need to run either of them for much more then 5-6 weeks yes run the test as a base and it will not prevent you from shutting down but if ou are suseptible to decca dick a progesterone side it will prevent that as well as the same side of tren
i had u decrease the test dose bec without it your mg/ wk would be at about 1500-1600 range when you were only at the 1100 range the first 10 wks

[ironaddict69]

ok, WHAT are these "progesterone" sides everyone talks about with tren! nobody will give me a solid answer!

[ironkop]

some of the same associated with decca such as decca dick and water retention though tren does lean ppl out and make them vascular water retention can occur. but i agree they are minimal progest sides compared to decca from my first hand exp. TREN is very kidney toxic though and liver toxic as well

-and the decca has a lonnng decanoate ester so he should run the test at least a week after he stops the decca and i figured just carry it out until the end to keep total mg and blood levels even keel!

[Booz]

i am 5 10 and weigh 195lbs 12%bf

diet is in check.. i have done 2 cycles and have used tren in my second..
due to injury i lost alot of what i gained... due to a baseball injury.. didnt allow me to work out.
would this work well for my 3rd cycle?

weeks 1-13 Sust 750mgs/wk
weeks 1-11 Deca 400mgs/wk
weeks 4-11 Tren 75mg/ed
weeks 9-13 winni 50mg/ed

thats a lot of shit for only your third cycle mate............
id change up the winny to run 18 days past the last shot of sust,then start your pct the day after that.................

[Booz]

ok, WHAT are these "progesterone" sides everyone talks about with tren! nobody will give me a solid answer!

as for this you can get progesterone related gyno that cannjot be treated the same way as test related gyno....................

[ironaddict69]

as for this you can get progesterone related gyno that cannjot be treated the same way as test related gyno....................

ahh ok. even so, i hear from most people, if they stack test with tren, theyre even hornier than regular test cycles. i know thats not the case with deca. im sure its because tren is so androgenic?

[oc pitbull]

with deca and tren you will grow huge and grow huge tits at the same time.

[goth717]

so basically i might as well split it up...

should i just run sust and deca

then run sust tren and winni later on after i finish the other half of the quick cycle first?