Underground Labs & Home Making kits

[weaz12]

My last cycle was from a kid who mixed and bottled the gear himself....it was an identical cycle that i previosly took (Deca & Test), however my results were not as good as when i took gear from ********, or another large lab...the bottles that would get would have a label on them that was typed on a computer and stuck on the bottle......what are some thoughts on this type of gear....is it all the same, or should i stay away from Underground no-name brands????

[testisbest]

might be underdosed. Also, you might want to bump the doses a little if you want to get results.

[Maldorf]

Really hard to say if the lower results from the homemade stuff was totally due to the AAS and not some other factor. How much of a difference was there? Many other things can factor in too: diet, sleep, training intensity etc. If everything besides the AAS was the same then you could probably say that the homebrew was underdosed. Was it more or less painful than the **********? Ive done ********* in the past and that stuff hurt like a mofo. Many homebrewers make solutions that are much less painful, so thats one benefit.
I would not recommend using it though unless you know that person well, know what kind of person they are. If they are honest and dont want to cheat you and have a good technique making it then I wouldnt hesitate to use. Using something that a total stranger makes at home, with no references from other people would be very risky to me and not worth the cost savings.

[Schmidty]

I would be more worried he was not sterile while making ur brew

[Maldorf]

I would be more worried he was not sterile while making ur brew

Yes, thats the biggest worry. I would want to either talk to him personally about how he does it or have many references from people that I know who have used it and never had trouble. Really the only way to be sure would be to see him do it, which I doubt would happen.

Many people take similar risks though when they use bigger labs though. Just because it has a fancy label and looks professinal doesnt mean its safe and dosed right. Some of the stuff I have bought I wouldnt give to a dog.

[jagdpanther]

The only way to know what and how much is in your in your gear is to do it yourself. Although it is called home brewing, cooking, making gear or whatever else this is really not what it is. The hormone powders are pre-bought and the process is like a more complicated version of reconstituing hgh. You also can make sure a sterile procedure is followed.
Will it take time to learn about the process? yes. Will the process take time? yes. On the other hand this method is much cheaper and you are the one in control. For me it is a great trade. I guess the biggest down side is that if you were ever busted, manufacturing could be added to the list of charges. Just my opinion.

But on small UGL's vs the big boys, I'll take a small UGL I know over the big boys everytime.

Jagdpanther

[Jabo2002]

yeah, but you must have a source to get the powder. Which is hard to get powder or vial?

[guest589745]

Everything I have made myself is a LOT better than UGL shit, or maybe it is the fact that I am using faster esters.......? Who knows.....

[jagdpanther]

yeah, but you must have a source to get the powder. Which is hard to get powder or vial?

If you make an effort to look around and do a source check you will find one. How do think other people do it? They didn't happen to just know each other by chance. The other thing is that there is always a little financial risk involved with the first minimum order.

Please don't ask me for one. I found mine on my own so it can be done. I will not answer.

[mkrulic]

yeah, but you must have a source to get the powder. Which is hard to get powder or vial?

depends on what you want to make. there is a recipe for synovex-h in the lab forum where test p is extracted and many for tren ace out of finaplex.

[Jabo2002]

yeah, I have seen those recipe's. I have tried the Fina. I was a good cycle, but I was very angry all the time...

[cj1capp]

yeah, but you must have a source to get the powder. Which is hard to get powder or vial?

they are equally easy to find.

[cj1capp]

yeah, I have seen those recipe's. I have tried the Fina. I was a good cycle, but I was very angry all the time...

i have found at least from my own experiences bad attitudes from gear use usually stem from people with bad attitudes.

[Jabo2002]

maybe so...but, I was happy all the time on test/deca.

[SHMIGS]

Its so damn hard to tell these days whats what..

I mean even the so called 'bigger' name labs have bad batches of gear or there are counterfeits that look identical to the real stuff...So how do you know really whats what???

I think the only way is to try some stuff and see what results you get from it and if its good try to stick with it or if your source is legit and solid try to get it from the same person all the time. People who sell this stuff arent in teh business to make enemies and screw people over cause then they wont come back for more and will loose people and money...

Also it seems like gear is harder and harder to get these days. With the Gov't and the borders, customs, etc...

Anywho - If I had my way Id stay on HGH forever

[guest589745]

Powder
+dramatically better price once product is created
+you know exactly what goes into it
+fun after you know what yer doing
-if you get caught you could face much larger charges
-lab supplies can be expensive at first
-is a bitch to learn at first
-shipping to my house (Had to) made me nervous

Pre Made
-more expensive than powder
-you are not 100% sure what goes into it
+can be cleaner and less painful, made by more expereinced manufacturers
+domestic shipping is a breeze so far, knock on wood and powder is usually never domestic
+lesser charges unless a huge personal order is intercepted
+the easy way

[Jabo2002]

very nice post Skulls... that about sums it up