First time with Hcg...Help..Critique

[donberry427]

Would you recomend using hcg? Im going with this for my next cycle (below) and was wondering if i should use hcg to keep everything working right...

250mg Test E twice a week (12 weeks)

Test prop 150mg EOD (first 4)

Multiple Vitamins (B-6, C, E, ETC...) ED (16 weeks+)
Nolavadex 10-20mg (12 weeks) May not even go ED...Might just have on hand, But i feel prone to gyno...
Nolavadex 20mg (13-16)
Clomid (15-17)


Now im new to hcg and Ive read up on it alot but im trying to get some answers from those who have used it...How did you use it in your cycle? Did you use it as PCT? Ive heard good things but im still wondering if its neccessary, atleast with this simple bulk cycle...

[shrpskn]

Don't run the HCG during PCT.

If you're going to use it, run it pre-PCT.

The only time that HCG is of any use to me is if I experience any testicular atrophy during an extremely suppressive cycle.

BTW, the poll didn't get a vote from me...I think it is garbage and HCG use is really cycle and individual dependent.

Good luck,

[donberry427]

Yeah I might just use it like nolavadex, being if symtoms come up...


I would'nt call it garbage though. If it can help you, than its more like a dream come true if you get in trouble...Or if your running 2 grams plus a week

[shrpskn]

Yeah I might just use it like nolavadex, being if symtoms come up...


I would'nt call it garbage though. If it can help you, than its more like a dream come true if you get in trouble...Or if your running 2 grams plus a week

IMO, proviron @ 50mg/ed throughout the cycle and PCT works better at keeping the boys in check than letting them go into atrophy and then having to deal with the consequences via HCG administration.

Are you running 2g+/wk?

Before we delve any further lets get some stats...Age, height, weight, cycle experience, training experience, goals...

[perfectbeast2001]

I run hcg if cycle if I notice atrophy. Shoot twice a week during cycle at 500iu each. then i shoot it in the gap between cycle and PCT 500iu daily.

[Booz]

hcg IMO is not needed during a small dose cycle,it may be used prior to pct if clomid is involved or during the 1st 2 weeks of pct if clomid is not used..................

[Booz]

now as mentioned abouv,if you are using a longer duration and more supressive compounds then i would advise hcg throughout...............

[shrpskn]

I would'nt call it garbage though. If it can help you, than its more like a dream come true if you get in trouble...Or if your running 2 grams plus a week

What I meant by garbage is the poll, not HCG...

HCG is a great tool to have on hand in the event it is needed...I always have a couple amps on standby just in case.

[Halfcenturian]

Glad to hear a"general" thumbs down on HCG. I'm 5/8 thru a Test750, Deca600 cycle and having run Proviron from day1. The first 2 weeks things were looking a little like "Honey I shrunk my balls", but the process stopped and the twins are maintaining size, and more importantly, function.
I think Proviron needs to be better promoted in our cycle recommendations.
Even an old fukc like me needs to go on "sarfari'. Altough it lacks real anabolic properties, it frees up existing test and keeps my libido active.
I have a sore neck from checking out the "scenery"... but i'm not complaining.

[shrpskn]

Glad to hear a"general" thumbs down on HCG. I'm 5/8 thru a Test750, Deca600 cycle and having run Proviron from day1. The first 2 weeks things were looking a little like "Honey I shrunk my balls", but the process stopped and the twins are maintaining size, and more importantly, function.

I think Proviron needs to be better promoted in our cycle recommendations.

Even an old fukc like me needs to go on "sarfari'. Altough it lacks real anabolic properties, it frees up existing test and keeps my libido active.
I have a sore neck from checking out the "scenery"... but i'm not complaining.

Excellent post.

I've been advocating Proviron use in cycles and PCT's ever since I found the effects of its use to be of great benefit to me.

I think AR's profile on Proviron says enough about how beneficial its use can be to an individual when it is incorporated into their cycle and/or PCT.

[SS1476]

Im also going to agree on the proviron.
I only have a few a cycles under my belt
but I can also say that proviron @50mg ED
and even during PCT has been great for me.
Never an issue with libido,and its also helped
for bloat with me,a good thing.


As for the topic,I say dependant on shrinkage.

For example:my cycles have been long,and Im
one whose prone to shrinkage...after 5-6 wks
its noticeable to me.What I do during a cycle
is I run the HCG every 6wks or so..@ 250iu ED
until I run out a 5000iu amp,roughly 20 shots.

I voted yes,but Im not packing bowling balls

[donberry427]

Im 22 6'5 245 Been workingout since i was 13 and got serious in highschool when i was 17. Started to have better planned woutouts when i was 19.. gaining 25+ in the past 3 years. im getting even more serious so i wanna get all the info about keeping my balls good and from shrinking as possible...


Thanks for the advice for privon..sounds like ill be using this instead

[grvdigr1]

I've ran hcg during cycles at 500iu every other day, have even tried different dosages but it doesnt seem to help the boys at all.. sounds like i need to try something else.

[NEW_2_THIS]

Im New To This,and I Really Dont Know .....i Just Started Taking Hcg For The 1st Time.. 500iu Same As 5iu On The Needle ..i Use The Insulin Type Injection And It Only Goes Up To 5iu ...

[Atomini]

Aren't you supposed to take 1500iu all at once? Hmm I must've read some bullshit article then...

[hugovsilva]

Anthony Roberts promotes hcg use for pct. I must agree with him since it worked for me. I wouldn't use it without a SERM though. I have used it for pct twice and start running it in the last week of cycle and first 2 of pct since I only run short esters. Proviron is a great tool also, during cycle and pct.

[taiboxa]

wow lots of oppinions here lol..
i have used it SO many times.. infact i have like 8 amps sittin here staring at me all angry kuz i will never used them again..
hcg never did anything for me as far as recovery goes.. i do just fine by tweeking my diet and using the same o'same o' AI/Serm Combo

but hcg did allow me to Get OFF in as lil as 2 pumps and totaly make having sex an interesting ordeal

[plzr8]

but hcg did allow me to Get OFF in as lil as 2 pumps and totaly make having sex an interesting ordeal

your girl must be proud

[taiboxa]

your girl must be proud

she was happy kuz she could go back to doing wat ever she was doing before we started gettin frisky.. apparently my ex thought i was BOTHERSOME when it came to sex ><

[Dude-Man]

I have peter north style loads when i'm on HCG.