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    just glance over it and tell me what you think, pthanks guys

    hey guys im 6'1 207lbs about 17% body fat, i wanna bulk up a bit tell me what you think of this diet

    breakfast: ***7AM***
    8 egg whites (136cal,1.6g of carbs,28.8g of protein, 0.8g of fat, 8cal from fat)
    2 slices of ham (91 cal, 2.1g of carbs, 9.3g of protein, 4.8g fat, 43cal from fat)
    cup of fat free yogurt (137cal, 18.8g of carbs, 14g of protein, 0.4g of fat, 4cal from fat)
    2 slices of whole wheat bread (220cal, 40g of carbs, 8g of protein, 4g of fat, 36cal from fat)
    multivitamin
    TOTAL: 584cal, 89.7g of carbs, 60.1g of protein, 10g of fat, 91cal from fat


    snack one: ***NOON***
    turkey breast sandwich (254cal,41.4g of carbs, 13.6g of protein, 9g of fat, 41cal from fat)
    cup of brown rice (216cal, 44.8g of carbs, 5g of protein, 1.8g of fat, 16cal from fat)
    2 protein bars 25g protein (380cal,38g of carbs, 50g of protein, 10g of fat, 90cal from fat)
    TOTAL: 850cal, 124.2g of carbs, 68.6g of protein, 20.8g of fat, 147cal from fat

    lunch: ***3PM***
    9oz chicken (426cal, og of carbs, 80.1g of protein, 9.3g of fat, 84cal from fat)
    1 cup of brown rice (216cal, 44.8g of carbs, 5g of protein, 1.8g of fat, 41cal from fat)
    carrots 9oz (90cal, 21g of carbs, 1.5g of protein, 0.6g of fat, 3cal from fat)
    2 slices of bread (220cal, 40g of carbs, 8g of protein, 4g of fat, 36cal from fat)
    1 large tomatoe (33cal, 7.1g of carbs, 1.6g of protein,0.4g of fat, 4cal from fat)
    TOTAL: 985cal, 193g of carbs, 96.2g of protein, 16.1g of fat, 168cal from fat

    WORKOUT AT 5:30 till about 7:00 - 7:30

    snack 2: PWO ***7:45PM***
    protein shake 100g (420cal, og of carbs, 100g of protein, 2g of fat, 20cal from fat)
    2 protein bar 25g (380cal, 38g of carbs, 50g of protein, 10g of fat, 90cal from fat)
    TOTAL: 830cal, 38g of carbs, 150g of protein, 12g of fat, 110cal from fat

    dinner: ***9:30*** go to bed around 11:30PM
    cup of almonds (549cal, 18.8g of carbs, 20.2g of protein, 48.1g of fat, 433cal from fat)
    1 large baked potatoe (278cal, 63.2g of carbs, 7.5g of protein, 0.4g of fat, 4cal from fat)
    1 cup of fat free yogurt (136cal, 18.8g of carbs, 14g of protein, 0.4g of fat, 4cal from fat)
    TOTAL: 963cal, 100.8g of carbs, 41.7g of protein, 48.9g of fat, 441cal from fat

    ***TOTAL IN ONE DAY***: 4176cal, 545.7g of carbs, 416.6g of protein, 107.8g of fat, 957cal from fat

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    As far as your total Macros are concerned, that is alot of Cals/Pro and Carbs you have. You will end up increasing BF, cut them down a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boDAWG
    hey guys im 6'1 207lbs about 17% body fat, i wanna bulk up a bit tell me what you think of this diet

    breakfast: ***7AM***
    8 egg whites (136cal,1.6g of carbs,28.8g of protein, 0.8g of fat, 8cal from fat) good
    2 slices of ham (91 cal, 2.1g of carbs, 9.3g of protein, 4.8g fat, 43cal from fat) high in sodium and highly processed
    cup of fat free yogurt (137cal, 18.8g of carbs, 14g of protein, 0.4g of fat, 4cal from fat) lose this its full of crap
    2 slices of whole wheat bread (220cal, 40g of carbs, 8g of protein, 4g of fat, 36cal from fat) not bad but there are better choices out there. oats spring to mind for breakfast
    multivitamin
    TOTAL: 584cal, 89.7g of carbs, 60.1g of protein, 10g of fat, 91cal from fat Way too much protein for one meal


    snack one: ***NOON***
    turkey breast sandwich (254cal,41.4g of carbs, 13.6g of protein, 9g of fat, 41cal from fat) better carb choices than bread, bump up the brown rice if you need more carbs
    cup of brown rice (216cal, 44.8g of carbs, 5g of protein, 1.8g of fat, 16cal from fat) good
    2 protein bars 25g protein (380cal,38g of carbs, 50g of protein, 10g of fat, 90cal from fat) absolute waste of money and eating time lose them
    TOTAL: 850cal, 124.2g of carbs, 68.6g of protein, 20.8g of fat, 147cal from fat way too much pro and carbs for one meal, i would not mix 20g of fat with a high carb meal like this unless i was looking to get fat

    lunch: ***3PM***
    9oz chicken (426cal, og of carbs, 80.1g of protein, 9.3g of fat, 84cal from fat) too much protein again
    1 cup of brown rice (216cal, 44.8g of carbs, 5g of protein, 1.8g of fat, 41cal from fat) good
    carrots 9oz (90cal, 21g of carbs, 1.5g of protein, 0.6g of fat, 3cal from fat) highest GI veg available pick any other veg
    2 slices of bread (220cal, 40g of carbs, 8g of protein, 4g of fat, 36cal from fat) better carb sources are available, bread is not good
    1 large tomatoe (33cal, 7.1g of carbs, 1.6g of protein,0.4g of fat, 4cal from fat) good
    TOTAL: 985cal, 193g of carbs, 96.2g of protein, 16.1g of fat, 168cal from fat Way way too much on the carbs and pro and fat!

    WORKOUT AT 5:30 till about 7:00 - 7:30

    snack 2: PWO ***7:45PM***
    protein shake 100g (420cal, og of carbs, 100g of protein, 2g of fat, 20cal from fat)
    2 protein bar 25g (380cal, 38g of carbs, 50g of protein, 10g of fat, 90cal from fat)
    TOTAL: 830cal, 38g of carbs, 150g of protein, 12g of fat, 110cal from fat
    not enough carbs, way too much pro and too much fat, should be more like 30g pro 80g carbs 0g fat

    dinner: ***9:30*** go to bed around 11:30PM
    cup of almonds (549cal, 18.8g of carbs, 20.2g of protein, 48.1g of fat, 433cal from fat)
    1 large baked potatoe (278cal, 63.2g of carbs, 7.5g of protein, 0.4g of fat, 4cal from fat)
    1 cup of fat free yogurt (136cal, 18.8g of carbs, 14g of protein, 0.4g of fat, 4cal from fat)
    TOTAL: 963cal, 100.8g of carbs, 41.7g of protein, 48.9g of fat, 441cal from fat too much fat and carbs to mix in one meal

    ***TOTAL IN ONE DAY***: 4176cal, 545.7g of carbs, 416.6g of protein, 107.8g of fat, 957cal from fat
    Not enough total meals, diet needs to be more evenly spread with 6-8 meals. You have fats mixing with high GI carbs all the way through which is a recipe for fat gain. Cals look real high unless you are ronnie coleman or just dirty bulking. I would totally re work the whole diet around more meals with better food choices and more care taken with food combining.

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    PB is spot on with the critique. Just curious, why do you want to bulk at 17% bf? I could see if it's for a sport, otherwise I would look to reduce bf before I started a bulker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNoMac
    PB is spot on with the critique. Just curious, why do you want to bulk at 17% bf? I could see if it's for a sport, otherwise I would look to reduce bf before I started a bulker.

    im cuttin right now but am planing t bulk later down the road just wanna get a diet planned out ahead of time, but i do need to make a leaning diet too and post it for cutting

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    if you are cutting then the diet is even further off than i thought. I would not even bulk with it, Fat gain city!

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    If thats the case, check out the cutting sticky. Good guideline to create a diet around, just need to adjust your macros accordingly.

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    ok ool, but how is this diet for bulking.......what kind of foods can i get that will be low in fat?

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    Listen to what PerfectBeast said, because that's what I was gonna say too

    Personally I would switch the ham slices in the morning to turkey, or just eat 2 more eggs. I don't ever eat swine because it's a really dirty meat (they are fed shit) and has very low bio-availability.

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    just in case you were wondering:


    Biological Value of Specific Protein Sources
    Whey 106-159
    Egg 100
    Cow's Milk 91
    Casein 80
    Soy 74
    Beef 80
    Fish 83
    Chicken 79
    Wheat Gluten 54
    Kidney Beans 49

    Pork isn't even on the list!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhuman
    just in case you were wondering:


    Biological Value of Specific Protein Sources
    Whey 106-159
    Egg 100
    Cow's Milk 91
    Casein 80
    Soy 74
    Beef 80
    Fish 83
    Chicken 79
    Wheat Gluten 54
    Kidney Beans 49

    Pork isn't even on the list!

    what the hell is bilogical value??? i never knew diets could be this damn complicated haahha

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    ^he is talking about the quality of the protein, some are more "available" to the body than others.

    Here are a basic list of good food sources.

    pro
    egg whites
    chciken
    turkey
    lean beef
    bison
    pretty much all fish although salmon and other oily fish are higher in fat so better suited to pro fat meals.
    whey
    cottage cheese

    Carbs

    Brown rice
    Sweet potatoes
    oats
    Wholewheat pasta
    Whole meal bread
    Green veg
    fruit (aviod dried we will get to that in a minute)

    High GI carbs for pre and post WO

    Bananas
    dried fruit
    Dextrose
    waxy maize starch
    maltodextrin
    Jam
    candy (not chocolate type) stuff like gummy bears
    white bread
    white rice
    white potatoes

    Fat

    Flax oil
    avocados
    nuts (unsalted and raw)
    olives
    oilve oil
    cheese
    oily fish
    fish oil caps
    Coconut oil (great for useing if you are frying anything as it is heat stable)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhuman
    just in case you were wondering:


    Biological Value of Specific Protein Sources
    Whey 106-159
    Egg 100
    Cow's Milk 91
    Casein 80
    Soy 74
    Beef 80
    Fish 83
    Chicken 79
    Wheat Gluten 54
    Kidney Beans 49

    Pork isn't even on the list!
    thats funny cause i was reading something from Hany Rambod.
    he said that Lean pork had a higher BV than red meat and chicken breast.
    he works with Phil heath and other top pros.
    not trying to argue, just want to know the answer cause i was bout to start adding it to my diet.
    thanks

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    personally I eat lean posrk (not ham though) and find it great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
    ^he is talking about the quality of the protein, some are more "available" to the body than others.

    Here are a basic list of good food sources.

    pro
    egg whites
    chciken
    turkey
    lean beef
    bison
    pretty much all fish although salmon and other oily fish are higher in fat so better suited to pro fat meals.
    whey
    cottage cheese

    Carbs

    Brown rice
    Sweet potatoes
    oats
    Wholewheat pasta
    Whole meal bread
    Green veg
    fruit (aviod dried we will get to that in a minute)

    High GI carbs for pre and post WO

    Bananas
    dried fruit
    Dextrose
    waxy maize starch
    maltodextrin
    Jam
    candy (not chocolate type) stuff like gummy bears
    white bread
    white rice
    white potatoes

    Fat

    Flax oil
    avocados
    nuts (unsalted and raw)
    olives
    oilve oil
    cheese
    oily fish
    fish oil caps
    Coconut oil (great for useing if you are frying anything as it is heat stable)


    thank you, i have most of this stuff but im missing some of it, so im printing that off and imma go to the grocery store and get some food

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    Hows your cutting diet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969
    Hows your cutting diet?

    cutting diet needs work i will post a sample and i iwll pm u a link to it, thanks for all ur help so far

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