Coming to the end of 10 week cycle.

[Lifter4Life128]

This is my first post in the forum and I just want to say whats up first to everyone as I have been an onlooker for a short time now.
Anyway my cycle is
Sustanon & EQ - Both 3x a week (mon, wed, fri)
After the first kit of 10 (Ampules) I hada choice to try deca out. so i stayed with Sustanon and just switched the Deca out for the EQ. Now im on my 3rd kits. Still Sustanon as my main base for the test and back to taking EQ for another 2 and 1/2 weeks and then im done.
I have noticed lately after stopping the deca that i've been becoming impotent. I'm surprised with the Sust all cycle that this will happen during a cycle. Does the Equipoise cause much suppression or will this most likely pass and is it possibly just from the deca?
It's annoying for the moment so i grabbed some libido boosters from my vitamin store to take (L-Argicor) and try and help out in the mean time.
Will HCG help this problem? Nolvadex and clomid are both taken PCT for eliminating the excess estrogen I believe so I dont think taking those now with 2 1/2 weeks left is a good idea?
Anyone with some advice would be appreciated.
Im considering doubling up with the sustanon my next shot and maybe skipping a dose of EQ and see if my libido jumps back but will that just postpone my problem for later on anyway?
Sorry for the long post ... anyway thanks for any responses in advance. Cheers

[tommy0677]

I'm just a newb myself but isn't Sust supposed to be taken EOD and dropping Deca for EQ mid cycle doesn't sound like the best idea since EQ takes awhile to build up in your system (usage of least 12-16 weeks for results???). I also think EQ only needs to be used twice a week?

What exactly did your cycle look like from the start (dosage + frequency)? From what I'm reading it seems like you started out with Sust + Deca, then dropped the Deca and added EQ. If that's the case there's your problem, you're putting your body through a hormone rollercoaster.

EDUCATE BEFORE YOU MEDICATE!!! These kind of forums are here to learn from, but the people on here can't help if you're just an "onlooker". No flame intended but your cycle is F*CKED just from reading your post.

[Lifter4Life128]

I started sust and EQ for the first 10 shots. Then I switched to Sust and Deca for the next 10 shots. Then back to Sust and EQ which im finishing now.
Yea i know I should have just stayed EQ all the way since its a slow gainer but you tend to retain most of the lean gains you make, but isnt deca the same way if not many ive seen compare deca close to EQ as far as gains with deca being more suppressive on your system (deca dick) and EQ being great for appetite. I didnt think that my hormones would be thrown that much for a loop with the test staying the base every other day ... I said mon, wed, fri in my first post. I've made great gains off what ive done so far. Started at 164 and am currently at 181 with 2 and 1/2 weeks left. so will prob end around 182-185 then PCT time to try and hang on to my gains.
I was just wondering if anyone else has noticed impotence during their cycle whether with deca or not and what they have done to help get it back on track before PCT. thx
may not have been the best first cycle but i enjoyed it!

[Joe Dic]

Just cause something is similair doesnt mean its interchangable, like you might switch test E for Test C but I dont think eq-deca is the same thing in other words the EQ lvls barely got up then you stopped and started something else that just started to work the dropped it to start EQ again without enough time for it to work. the sust works cause it has long and and quick acting test but its all test.\

Also You should run EQ like test atleast 12 weeks is suggested.

heres some drivle from steroid.coms home page

It´s not very common to compare Equipoise to testosterone; however& a far more common comparison is between Equipoise and Deca. I suspect this is because when Dan Duchaine introduced this compound to the steroid using community, he made an immediate comparison to Deca, speculating that it would act similarly to Deca but like a much stronger version of it. Equipoise doesn´t actually act much like deca at all; Deca is actually a progestin and a 19-nor derived steroid whereas Equipoise is more closely related to testosterone (being only one double bond differ rent). Duchaine later rescinded his original statement on Equipoise and said that it was disappointing as a mass builder when compared with deca, but a far better drug than for both strength gains and vascularity. Unfortunately, the myth that Equipoise´s action is similar to Deca´s has persisted for nearly 2 decades after he revised his opinion; this is most evident on internet message boards today, where many will advise against including both of them in a cycle because "they act the same way."


In other words the EQ did shit and the Deca well so little....

[Joe Dic]

I started sust and EQ for the first 10 shots. Then I switched to Sust and Deca for the next 10 shots. Then back to Sust and EQ which im finishing now.
Yea i know I should have just stayed EQ all the way since its a slow gainer but you tend to retain most of the lean gains you make, but isnt deca the same way if not many ive seen compare deca close to EQ as far as gains with deca being more suppressive on your system (deca dick) and EQ being great for appetite. I didnt think that my hormones would be thrown that much for a loop with the test staying the base every other day ... I said mon, wed, fri in my first post. I've made great gains off what ive done so far. Started at 164 and am currently at 181 with 2 and 1/2 weeks left. so will prob end around 182-185 then PCT time to try and hang on to my gains.
I was just wondering if anyone else has noticed impotence during their cycle whether with deca or not and what they have done to help get it back on track before PCT. thx
may not have been the best first cycle but i enjoyed it!

limp dick, test should keep you hard if not a few viagra sure will.

[tommy0677]

Did you try Viagra or Cialis (my favorite) for limp wood? Also, you never did say what doses you were running each compound at? Knowing that could help us give you better advice to help get things going again. It probably wouldn't hurt looking at the PCT forums too. 164 is kind of a light weight to start at. What do your other stats look like?

Don't be shy to start asking a lot of questions and using the search function. We're all here to learn and to be safe at doing what we do.

[Lifter4Life128]

thanks tommy ...
Sust is 250mg/shot
EQ and Deca noth 200mg/shot

So i was doing 750/week of Sust weeks 1-10
600 mg/week of EQ first 10 shots (just over 3 weeks) <---week 1-3
600 mg/week of Deca 10 shots (just over 3 weeks) <--- week 4-6
600 mg/week of EQ again now in my last 3 weeks. <---- week 7-finish

Was fine in the beginning from the test and like a rock so to speak didnt have any problems until switching off the deca and noticed this week really so i figured i would try and find out if the deca or the switching could be the problem.
Will a double shot of Sust tomorrow 500 mg boost my levels up for a while to alleviate the "limp" problem and make it go away? Then resume normal shots until i finish the cycle? Should I take EQ also tomorrow if i do a double shot ... Im guessing the EQ isnt causing the problem but maybe it is. It wasnt in the beginning.
I know more wont get me more gains really as this is my first cycle and when im done with the remaining 7 shots then its PCT time. But i just would like to get my test levels high again going into PCT. 3 more weeks of taking over the counter supplements isnt really what i have in mind. viagra and stuff isnt sumtin i want to just cover up the problem or sweep it under the rug so to speak. i like being ready to go without any pills like before the cycle. thx

[taiboxa]

well seeing how EQ takes like 8 weeks to KICK IN.. u wasted that aas like no other LOL
deca takes about 4 weeks to get to peek levels so .. ur kinda wasting your money there as well..
welp congradulations u wasted your first cycle lol
and u probably coulda made those gains natty w/ a proper diet.

whoa is really all i can say at this thread LOL

[Lifter4Life128]

that doesnt answer my question though, but thanks for your comment ... or waste of one i should say.

[Mista Massive]

that doesnt answer my question though, but thanks for your comment ... or waste of one i should say.

it's not a waste, it's just not what you wanted to hear. but it is true, you wasted a lot of gear and money on something you could have gained naturally. not to mention you keep 100% of your gains when training/diet naturally

[taiboxa]

that doesnt answer my question though, but thanks for your comment ... or waste of one i should say.

research woulda been a good first step before cycling ..
increasing the test wont make much difference.. its NOT suppression
u can NOT suppress an EXOGENOUS hormone
its a hormonal imbalance thats causing the problem
estrogen/progest
run w/ viagra and LEARN A GOOD PCT
clomid+nolva really isnt as effective as introducing an AI
but before u ever touch any aas .. please learn to read adequately.. so u dont take up any more of this boards bandwidth w/ your troubled logic.