DBOL Tablets only cycle

[toyman]

I’m 5' 9 176LBS

I’m looking for some gains 5-10 LBS max of lean mass.
Can I do Dbol tabs only?

How many mg per day for how long.

Any sides? I can’t do bitch tits or hair loss.

Also do I absolutely need a PCT? If so what at minimum. Or can I just taper off.

If I taper off then how’s that done?
Project 2 weeks before end and go from 25mgs to 1 or 2 mgs by day 14?

How do I do that with 10 mg tabs?? / cut them into quarters?

[anabolics4life]

you are going to get real watery and it is gonna be bad on your liver too, and yes you do need pct(unless you want to screw up your natural test levels)

and by the way: research some more, it's all here

[plzr8]

judging by this thread & your other thread: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=287858

you have absolutely no idea what you are doing

please do a ton more research before you take anything else...you know what, just dont take anything.

between your avatar & your obvious lack of knowledge, you shouldnt even be considering anything except diet & training

(no intent to flame, but these threads get to me)

[testisbest]

might wanna try something besides dbol if you want LBM

[Pro_built7]

I’m 5' 9 176LBS

I’m looking for some gains 5-10 LBS max of lean mass.
Can I do Dbol tabs only?

How many mg per day for how long.

Any sides? I can’t do bitch tits or hair loss.

Also do I absolutely need a PCT? If so what at minimum. Or can I just taper off.

If I taper off then how’s that done?
Project 2 weeks before end and go from 25mgs to 1 or 2 mgs by day 14?
How do I do that with 10 mg tabs?? / cut them into quarters?

taper off??... what ?? where have you heard that BS before... you NEED pct notice "need" not ''want" as in its a necessity. nolvadex + clomid
aka tamoxifen + clomiphene. man not flamin but USE THE searh bar up top..

[perfectbeast2001]

What are your reasons for choosing a Dbol cycle? The fact you suggest you want to take the minimum or no PCT leads me to think you are not ready for a cycle. PCT should be number one priority when putting a cycle together.

[abcdef81]

i gotta tell you from my view point...i never do pct. i've tried that route before and it seems to screw me up something bad, i start breaking out with acne and my sex drive gets all wacked up. so i just taper off and go w/out having sex for a couple weeks, then everything returns back to normal. i know most people are against this, but just thought i'd give a different perspective.

[abcdef81]

i would def recommend the nolvadex tho, so that u dont get gyno

[getdowntoit]

Taper off is a good idea but would still pct as well just incase

[cb11mass]

5-10 lbs of lean body mass!! try saving your liver and endocrine system and researching some different lifting regimes and different diets.

[nandro_shagg]

damn perfect...looking good bro

dbol only would suck ass...and yes you would need pct but if all you want is 5-10lbs i wouldn't consider juicing bro, if done correctly you would get alot more then that from a good cycle

[toyman]

You know you guys are really sad I thought this was a place to come to for advice. I'm seeing a lot of conflicting info on this site, that’s why I’m asking MY OWN question
Now I’m sorry I even post things here.
I’m looking for solid advice because I plan an oral only cycle. Even though I have
50 x 50mg tablet winstol
50 x 10 mg dbols tablets
Test cyp Strength: 200 mg/ml, 10ml/vial

On their way to me.

Wish I got the right direction.....

I don’t understand the “shut down” when using the test and what I have to do to avoid that.
Can I do just 200 mg’s a week of the TEST Cyp per week? With the Dbol?

[GFLEXXX]

first cycle?

[toyman]

YES.

are you gonna make fun of me?

[y100adics]

You know you guys are really sad I thought this was a place to come to for advice. I'm seeing a lot of conflicting info on this site, that’s why I’m asking MY OWN question
Now I’m sorry I even post things here.
I’m looking for solid advice because I plan an oral only cycle. Even though I have
50 x 50mg tablet winstol
50 x 10 mg dbols tablets
Test cyp Strength: 200 mg/ml, 10ml/vial

On their way to me.

Wish I got the right direction.....

I don’t understand the “shut down” when using the test and what I have to do to avoid that.
Can I do just 200 mg’s a week of the TEST Cyp per week? With the Dbol?

Not flaming bro, but curious? I'm also new to different things here, but why would you buy something and have it on it's way to you, if you don't understand it or even know how to dose or use it? There's tons of info on here about the questions you're asking and once you educate yourself even a little, 99% of the people on here will help with all your questions .... just my .02

[GFLEXXX]

no definately not...

some info...

most here will recommend test e/c for 10-12 weeks @ 400-500mg for first cycle...search and you find out more info. why..the most important one in my books is to try one compound at a time..

Dbol prolly not your best choice for LBM gains, expect A Lot of water unless your diet is tight...research up on TBol and Var. may be more benificial to your goals when the time comes...

from what you post sounds like you think only "test" will shut you down...this is not true. and yes, running a low dose of test while higher with other compounds helps to keep you functioning properly.

ponder grabbing another bottle of test and running that, put the others aside for later most don't expire for years...and for your 2nd cycle you can try the lower test with higher anabolic compounds to get those LBM gains your looking for.

btw avatar comment was silly IMO, you look like your training so keep it up...

[presence]

Clearly this guy is inexperienced and he probably would be better served with a test only cycle, not to mention more education to understand exactly what he is getting into. However, he appears to have firmly decided to do a Dbol only cycle. If he is 100% determined to do an oral only cycle, someone should actually explain to him what doses of Dbol he should take, and also the duration.

[DHew]

Hey man,

Dbol only? Im about to start one. Expect some waterweight, lots so i hear. Drink lots of cranberry juice and take milk thistle to keep your liver healthy. DBol is toxic on the liver. Plan a 4 week cycle of 25mg per day. Try to split the dosage in half IE: some in the morning, some in the evening.

For PCT, I recommend HCG, and Nolva at least. Thats the basics, expect to be critisized, because a lot of people hate on the dbol only cycle. Some promote it - others dont. I just have to try it out for myself. I DID do a test enth 500mg EW for 10 weeks and it was great! I DO recommend getting another bottle of that test you ordered, and try running it soon.

[pip_squeek]

ur better off trying an oral like andriol if you want to gain 10lb of lean muscle only hardly any sides besides it may get a bit harsh on liver on high doses other than that should get you your 10lbs or just use creatine

[KAEW44]

I have a friend who just did a Dbol only without PCT and he just got a semen analysis done, his semen density was one third of the minimum, half of that one third was dead sperm, and out of the 50% live sperm two thirds had mutated heads and tails and died within 2 hours. We have him doing a PCT now which is late but we are hoping to bring him back up to at least 25% of normal male sperm count. Very sad thing what happened and guess what all his gains went away also, so it was basically killing your fertility for nothing.

[aadrenaline]

YES.

are you gonna make fun of me?

man now i see why you dont want to do pct your whiney now lol.

i wouldnt do the dbol if you want to gain lbm. you said you have winstrol? run the winstrol only then. i did a winstrol only 2 years ago i gained like 7lbs and was hard as hell.

also how old are you?

if you didnt want to go to crazy you could run the winstrol at 50mg per day for like 6 or 7 weeks with 200mg per week of that cyp you got. your not going to blow up or get huge but you should gain something off of it. again depending on your age and what your natural test leves are. i believe we produce on ave. 4-6mg a day natty so 200mg a week is 28mg a day basically. like a trt dose.

i would get some nolva though you could use towards the end and after you last injection to help your body produce test again. plus 200mg a week isnt too hard on your body to recover from.

[aadrenaline]

wait you only have 50 10mg dbols? thats not enough anyway thats like 12 or 13 days worth..you'd need to run it for at least 4 weeks id say more like 5

[toyman]

So many conflicting views on Dbol.

but Dbol in and of itself isnt bad is it?
Maybe its just bad if the proper PCT isnt done and done at the right time.

I am not determined to do a Dbol only run.

when running test only do i need PCT?? if so when?

[aadrenaline]

bro your going to need more dbols then...40mg/ED so you have 12.5 days worth you wont see anything from it.

[toyman]

thanks

[aadrenaline]

um that all depends on your bro..diet, training you know. im running 500mg a week into week 5 right now im up 8-10lbs also running T3 and winny. test im just starting to feel the full effects and loving it.

ive personally never used dbol, but most if not all will tell you no less than 30-35mg/ED you still wouldnt have enough.

you have enough winny.

so i would do this with what you have.

wk1-10 200mg every week
wk1-6 50mg every day winstrol
wk10-15 10-20mg nolvadex every day

its not too much 10mg may be fine, nobody will really know without actually trying it out with your body and checking blood frequently so everything is basically just a ruff estimate and adjusted on what works for you.

how old are you?

[anabolics4life]

my current cycle is:
week 1-12 500mg/week test e
week 1-4(5) 50mg ed injectable dbol (oral is fine also)
week 1-12 arimidex(liquidex) .25mg ed

test is the base of the cycle, dbol is to kickstart the cycle since dbol kicks in almost immediately, test enanthate or cypionate take about 3-5 weeks to kick in, and the arimidex is used to control water weight

you can even add more AI's so that you won't bulk as much

hope this helps

[Dobie-BOY]

man the pct stuff is cheap, easily accessible and if you got the money for expensive suits the small cost shouldnt be a problem. Man, no pct = big probs!!

[perfectbeast2001]

i gotta tell you from my view point...i never do pct. i've tried that route before and it seems to screw me up something bad, i start breaking out with acne and my sex drive gets all wacked up. so i just taper off and go w/out having sex for a couple weeks, then everything returns back to normal. i know most people are against this, but just thought i'd give a different perspective.

so you are blaming PCT drugs for these sides. Yeah right its nothing to do with your test levels dropping through the flor is it! I cant believe the stuff people are doing here to save a few bucks on proper PCT. What do I care, you all go ahead with your oral cycles and no pct and continue getting knowhere.

[toyman]

AAdrenalin<

When you say "its not too much 10mg may be fine" what do you mean?

I'm 33 and not against the PCT's just confused whether to take them before, during or after cycle.
I guess I'm just trying to keep it simple you know.
I'm married with children, in business etc. I’m not trying to fool myself into thinking I’m a Pro Body Builder, I just want to look and feel good. Now I’m ready for a little extra advantage to push another 10lbs LBM without sacrificing more time and focus/attention to the gym than I already do.
My current program is:
• Day 1 Chest / Tri’s
• Day 2 Cardio - treadmill
• Day 3 Back / Bi's
• Day 4 rest
• Day 5 Shoulders/ Legs
• Day 6 rest
• Day 7 start again.

Also like the cycle you listed just need clarification on my question above on the 10mgs’s
wk1-10 200mg every week
wk1-6 50mg every day winstrol
wk10-15 10-20mg nolvadex every day

if I got my hands on more dbol would you say change it?

Did I mention that I just came off 10 mgs tablets a day for 50 days winstrol cold turkey?

I must say that during and after my sx drive wasn’t where it usually is.

[Outta Kontrol]

Hi board,
I am new to this site so please forgive me. I have thick skin so if I get outta line put me in check. I'm not scared of critisism; I look forward to gaining from the knowlege. Okay so here goes.... I am a little confused by a lot of what toymans' intentions are. If you want to gain lean mass then in my opinion D-bol is not the best way to achieve that. The water you will retain alone will weigh 10 pounds. D-bol is definitly bulking gear used to kickstart a cycle. Secondly, work on your dosage; like adrenaline said there's only enough for about 10 days!!! You need to cycle D-bol for (I would say) 6 weeks. Thirdly, if you really want to keep you gains PCT is mandatory (I think you understand that by now) With all that said, I do not reccommend D-bol for what you are trying to do. Your expensive wardrobe will be donated to charity if you go forward with a Test/D-bol cycle. I suggest researching Anavar (oral) or perhaps, Primo and Eq (inject) if you want to gain solid, lean, hard mass. Anavar won't effect your HTPA, actually helps burn fat, and won't retain water. Eq will increase your appetite so you really have to have a tight diet but you will gain geniuine strength and size steadily. You have to take both Anavar and Eq twice as long, 12 weeks at least, but your gains ar quality. That is just my humble opinion... like I said, you should do more research on gear. What I like about this forum is how knowlege is "protected", forcing you to research first; ask questions later. The members will help but do your part too. A lot of questions have already been answered. Think of it sort of like bootcamp. You have to go through the fire to get to the reward. No pain no gain: That goes for research too!!!

[Outta Kontrol]

also...
What do you mean when you say "I JUST came off 10 mgs tablets a day for 50 days winstrol"?????

You may be doing too much too soon!!!! I hate to preach... but for the sake you your health, wife, and kids, listen to the moderators and senior members and RESEARCH!!!

-Knowledge is POWER!

[getdowntoit]

Hey man,

Dbol only? Im about to start one. Expect some waterweight, lots so i hear. Drink lots of cranberry juice and take milk thistle to keep your liver healthy. DBol is toxic on the liver. Plan a 4 week cycle of 25mg per day. Try to split the dosage in half IE: some in the morning, some in the evening.

For PCT, I recommend HCG, and Nolva at least. Thats the basics, expect to be critisized, because a lot of people hate on the dbol only cycle. Some promote it - others dont. I just have to try it out for myself. I DID do a test enth 500mg EW for 10 weeks and it was great! I DO recommend getting another bottle of that test you ordered, and try running it soon.

naaa not hcg, just nolva and clomid

[pwerfll1]

so many parrots out there man d-bol only do work if done right ya u will gain some water but u will become strong as a house.proper pct is a must as mentioned above nolva works fine.be sure ur diet is in check or u will be wastin ur time and money.and be ready for some killer back pumps good luck bro

[rabidsquirrel]

(not flaming) in my opinion you dont need to be using steroids at all. i have sat here and read all the comment on your thread. u have know idea what u want or what ur doing. you said u have read other forum and are confused, i call BS. the reason i say that is i have been reading on here for a few months now and already know 1000x what u know. i have a buddy like u says he does feel like reading all that crap, dude im dyslexic and can bearly read but i do it. how can u expect help if your not willing to go the extra step. saying you dont want to spend anymore time or focus at the gym alone screams i dont need steroids. more than half the people here have kids and full time jobs (this inclueds me) but we still spend the extra time and focus on doing it right. i could sit here all day and type to u but it doesnt matter cause u wont listen. so ill close with this. u have one body one life why fuk it up.

[Second2None]

seems there is alot of KNOW_IT_ALLS on this site to much for me

[Decoder]

You know you guys are really sad I thought this was a place to come to for advice. I'm seeing a lot of conflicting info on this site, that’s why I’m asking MY OWN question
Now I’m sorry I even post things here.
I’m looking for solid advice because I plan an oral only cycle. Even though I have
50 x 50mg tablet winstol
50 x 10 mg dbols tablets
Test cyp Strength: 200 mg/ml, 10ml/vial

On their way to me.

Wish I got the right direction.....

I don’t understand the “shut down” when using the test and what I have to do to avoid that.
Can I do just 200 mg’s a week of the TEST Cyp per week? With the Dbol?

Its not sad, you didnt take the time to research on your own obviously, and you want quick answers. thats why you got the flame.

[Decoder]

(not flaming) in my opinion you dont need to be using steroids at all. i have sat here and read all the comment on your thread. u have know idea what u want or what ur doing. you said u have read other forum and are confused, i call BS. the reason i say that is i have been reading on here for a few months now and already know 1000x what u know. i have a buddy like u says he does feel like reading all that crap, dude im dyslexic and can bearly read but i do it. how can u expect if your not willing to go the extra step. saying you dont want to spend anymore time or focus at the gym alone screams i dont need steroids. more than half the people here have kids and full time jobs (this inclueds me) but we still spend the extra time and focus on doing it right. i could sit here all day and type to u but it doesnt matter cause u wont listen. so ill close with this. u have one body one life why fuk it up.

I worked ****ing 11 hours today and still put in 2 hours at the gym, i was knocking out 80lb dumbell kick backs perfect form =)

[Knoxston]

AAdrenalin<

When you say "its not too much 10mg may be fine" what do you mean?

I'm 33 and not against the PCT's just confused whether to take them before, during or after cycle.
I guess I'm just trying to keep it simple you know.
I'm married with children, in business etc. I’m not trying to fool myself into thinking I’m a Pro Body Builder, I just want to look and feel good. Now I’m ready for a little extra advantage to push another 10lbs LBM without sacrificing more time and focus/attention to the gym than I already do.
My current program is:
• Day 1 Chest / Tri’s
• Day 2 Cardio - treadmill
• Day 3 Back / Bi's
• Day 4 rest
• Day 5 Shoulders/ Legs
• Day 6 rest
• Day 7 start again.

Also like the cycle you listed just need clarification on my question above on the 10mgs’s
wk1-10 200mg every week
wk1-6 50mg every day winstrol
wk10-15 10-20mg nolvadex every day

if I got my hands on more dbol would you say change it?

Did I mention that I just came off 10 mgs tablets a day for 50 days winstrol cold turkey?

I must say that during and after my sx drive wasn’t where it usually is.

You might want to train bis after chest and tris after back that way you can train those groups a little more effectivly and there not fatigued by the time you train them also on the cycle you may want to through the dbol in at the beginnin and the winstrol at the end just a suggestion

[highrise]

Yea sure, we all know dbol makes you hold a lot of water, but that doesn't negate the fact that it's highly anabolic. You are still going to gain a lot of lean muscle mass while on the cycle, if you protein and caloric intake are high. It's highly unlikely that you will gain 10 lbs of lean muscle mass on a dbol only cycle though, especially if its a short cycle. Worse yet, dbol is probably one of the worst steroids to come off of cold turkey - you will lose the lean muscle mass you gained while on if you do that. So your main concern should be PCT. Try clen and something to boost your test levels back up ASAP.

I personally never really go off once I go on. I do PCT and clen after a cycle but always add a bridge like deca or primobolan ***ot. My goals are probably different than yours, but in my 13+ years of messing around with steroids, and hanging out with the juicer crowd in the gym, I've learned that if you want to really get big, you never really go off.