Front loading vs. Pyramiding

[ShadetreeJones]

Just wanted to get some thoughts on which cycling philosophy experienced people on here prefer.

My last cycle i didn't do either, just ran 500 mgs of Sustanon a week for all 12 weeks.

A good friend who has done tons of research on gear told me using the pyramid technique is outdated and not generally recommended anymore.

The way this guy frontloads is for example on my cycle he would have shot 500 mgs on his first shot of the cycle, then just the regular 250 every third day thereafter.

This is a great board and I appreciate everyone who takes time to give their opinions and stories. Happy lifting boys.

[hugoboss]

do a search on frontloading, heaps of thrads on it.
!000mgs first week and 500 there after is what they recomend. seems to be benifical with slower releasing esters.

[Kratos]

sust isn't ideal for frontloading, get a single estered test like C or E
pyramiding makes no sense, don't know why it was ever in

[qwerty1212]

here is the best thread I have found on here for Front loading. It explains a couple different approaches to it and has all the pretty graphs to go along with it!

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=frontloading

Also here is a calculator that u can use to figure out ur own cycle and see what the blood levels look like.

http://www.powerboard.se/roidcalc/

Hope that helps!

[Misery13]

wow...thank you qwerty1212 for showing us the frontloading thread...I was still pyramiding.

[Random]

Personally i like frontloading...but sometimes it can bite back either with more pain, or a lethargic feeling...regardless it hits by the end of wk 1 so no time wasted..

CD

[Erwin]

Currently running Test E@250mg/ew EQ@600mg/ew and Tren E@400mg/ew. Frontloaded the first two weeks and gotta say, I will be frontloading long esters from here on out. End of week two and I was feeling the tren.-Erwin

[ShadetreeJones]

Cool stuff you guys. I really appreciate listing the other threads about front loading. I had no idea this practice was so popular.

Getting ready to start a 12 week on Jan. 1st of 2008.

1st shot will be 1,200 mg of test e, then 600/wk for the remainder of the 12 weeks. Equipoise at 500mg/week. Then at week 9 I will throw in some anavar to lean and harden up. Can't wait!!

[Erwin]

Cool stuff you guys. I really appreciate listing the other threads about front loading. I had no idea this practice was so popular.

Getting ready to start a 12 week on Jan. 1st of 2008.

1st shot will be 1,200 mg of test e, then 600/wk for the remainder of the 12 weeks. Equipoise at 500mg/week. Then at week 9 I will throw in some anavar to lean and harden up. Can't wait!!

Just to throw in my .02 when I did my frontload I did it for the first two weeks. If my plan was to do injections on monday and thursday then I did my normal doses on monday and thursday and a second dose on tuesday and friday. otherwise I would have been injecting 5cc's at a time. Not sure how everyone else frontloads but this worked well for me.-Erwin

[ShadetreeJones]

Just to throw in my .02 when I did my frontload I did it for the first two weeks. If my plan was to do injections on monday and thursday then I did my normal doses on monday and thursday and a second dose on tuesday and friday. otherwise I would have been injecting 5cc's at a time. Not sure how everyone else frontloads but this worked well for me.-Erwin

That's very interesting to me and brings up another question: Would there be any difference or advantage to instead of running 1,200mg then 600mg to just doing 900mg for the first 2 shots then getting back to regular dosage? Also, is test e best injected once a week, twice a week, or does it really even matter?

[Erwin]

well the object of frontloading is to get a buildup faster in your system. So the norm is to double from what I have done and have read on here. And most will tell you that Test E should be shot twice a week, so will I. But every body is different.-Erwin