Boxer wanting to do a cycle

[Ani-mal]

I'm 27 yrs old and weighed about 165 pds (From partying Heineken and eating unhealthy) lol I started boxing, and training hard running etc....within 2 weeks I lost about 5 pds...because of training and eating healthy.

Because my gym is very intense and I'm competing against alot of young fighters, and because I just started training again, I feel I need a boost!!!

being that I'm still out of shape my trainer wants me to spar, spar, spar!!! and I'm just getting back into it.

My objective:

I want to cut weight, get ripped, improve my stamina dramtically, I have the skill I just need condition and a lil booster.

I weigh about 158 right now and I want to be fighting at 130-135 pds and maybe walk around 140-145pds...maybe 150...

I was thinking about taking Winstrol but I heard its bad for the liver, I was also reading about anavar, and EQuipoise....


My friend told me to take winstrol and milk thistle...

I want some advise.....on how to take it and what to take...for a boost!! Advice is greatly appreciated!!!

[godkilla]

you dont need steroids to train boxing. besides that you just started training

[Ani-mal]

Like i stated I have the SKILLS ...im just out of condition and yes...i can do it naturally it might take a little longer, however I want a boost...I made up my mind...I wanna do a cycle and continue training and eating right...i just need roid advice.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I used to train when I was 20 yrs old and younger...now that Im 27 I need a little boost and thats it....Please help.

[rockinred]

What are your goals?? When taking AAS i don't like to run... when I use to box I would have to run 4-6 miles all the time... AAS gave me size and stregnth, slowed me down (never took while boxing, i was kid)... are you getting back into boxing for fun and conditioning? if yes, then you can run a cycle, if no, then I wouldn't run a cycle.. there are plenty of other ways to cut and gain stregnth in your core and punching without compromising your speed, which you need for competition... remember speed is power.

[Big]

being that I'm still out of shape

Godkilla said it right, gear won't get you in shape if you don't have the drive and dedication to get there on your own. Gear helps you break through plateaus when you have trained your ass off and eaten right for month/years, you are far from ready for that.

[Merc..]

I'm 27 yrs old and weighed about 165 pds (From partying Heineken and eating unhealthy) lol I started boxing, and training hard running etc....within 2 weeks I lost about 5 pds...because of training and eating healthy.

Because my gym is very intense and I'm competing against alot of young fighters, and because I just started training again, I feel I need a boost!!!

being that I'm still out of shape my trainer wants me to spar, spar, spar!!! and I'm just getting back into it.

My objective:

I want to cut weight, get ripped, improve my stamina dramtically, I have the skill I just need condition and a lil booster.

I weigh about 158 right now and I want to be fighting at 130-135 pds and maybe walk around 140-145pds...maybe 150...

I was thinking about taking Winstrol but I heard its bad for the liver, I was also reading about anavar, and EQuipoise....


My friend told me to take winstrol and milk thistle...

I want some advise.....on how to take it and what to take...for a boost!! Advice is greatly appreciated!!!

First off welcome to the board.... Here is the winny profile in case you havnt seen it ..

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199794

Alot of people have joint related problems with winny so keep that in mind..

Also make sure your diet is on point as thats whats going to get you where you need to be. We have a wonderful diet forum please check it out sometime.

Merc

[perfectbeast2001]

Diet will dictate how lean you become. As for AS if you are certain then a test only cycle would be my 02.

1-10 test E 500mg EW
arimidex on hand for estro sides.

[millionairemurph]

Aas have slowed down my conditioning somewhat and i box. I say get in shape first, then you could get results from aas. Get your diet on point first too. Diet is more important than any suppliment or steroid.

[godkilla]

i get winded ****ing my gf on aas(tren/test/mast). i wouldnt even think about taking it b4 i trained kickboxing or boxing. the reason i said what i said is your original post. you made it snd like you just start boxing and want to jump on steroids. now if this is true and you have been training boxing for less than a year, i stand by my original statement. steroids arent gonna make you "in shape" or improve your sparring or skills any.

[Kratos]

run interval sprints, you are gonna need the lungs

You don't need steroids the minute you pick up a weight and start working out. Achieve good first, then we will help you achieve better.

[pr0digy9daniel]

Your a cheater!! Shame on you...

Either way, they are right, you need to train alot. Steroids will help, I wouldnt say you need really high doses. But train train train, do lots of cardio, and sparring, and get your body into condition, and practice to get your reactions good...

[Ani-mal]

Thanks for the comments,

I've been doing real good in my training, I have the skills, just my conditioning sucks....but it's been getting better everyday.....I know I can stay natural and achieve great conditioning, however I just wanted a lil one month - 6 week boost of some juice for a somewhat kick start......I know once my conditioning start going I'll be great.....


In other words.....I don't wanna train, triain, train, and lose weight, get in shape and be ready in 3 months,

I want to take some juice as an addition to my training, so that my condition will be that much more awesome and be on another level after 3 months....

I no I dont need the juice but I made up my mind...I want to....so should I take Winstrol?

Other fighters told me winstrol helped with their stamina, and getting ripped, as an addition to training.

My other friend has recommended "cutting Fuel" I never heard of that but it's made up of Fina, Masteron, and proprinate...I believe,..

Advice is appreciated.
Thanks,


Thanks for your comments.

[Kratos]

Thanks for the comments,

I've been doing real good in my training, I have the skills, just my conditioning sucks As stated above steroids will not help your conditioning, and will make you suck wind worse....but it's been getting better everyday.....I know I can stay natural and achieve great conditioning, however I just wanted a lil one month - 6 week boost of some juice for a somewhat kick start......I know once my conditioning start going I'll be great.....


In other words.....I don't wanna train, triain, train, and lose weight, get in shape and be ready in 3 months, This is what you shoud do

I want to take some juice as an addition to my training, so that my condition will be that much more awesome and be on another level after 3 months...

I no I dont need the juice but I made up my mind...I want to....so should I take Winstrol? It will kill your joints and you wont see much differance

Other fighters told me winstrol helped with their stamina, and getting ripped, as an addition to training.

My other friend has recommended "cutting Fuel" I never heard of that but it's made up of Fina, Masteron, and proprinate...I believe,..This is an advanced cycle and I wouldn't recomend to a noob, you are gonna get some sides and have some issues

Advice is appreciated.
Thanks,


Thanks for your comments.

See the the bold words above.

All I can say is

It took you awhile to get in bad shape and you had fun doing it, it will take you awhile to get out of it.

The guys at the gym are gonna have a good laugh if you do that "cutting fuel" stack. Picture yourself standing over a puddle of sweat huffing and puffing after walking up the stairs to get into the gym. It isn't going to help your endurance.

[Ani-mal]

Thanks for all the advice guys. I appreciate it.

[Hiphopharry]

dude, what are you training for? Competition?
What level of comp?
Amateurs or pros?
you said so yourself, you need to be in shape, being in "boxing" shape is not something you do gear for. Gear can hurt your stamina if done the wrong way.
If you said you needed to go up in weight, or more strength, then I'd say get in shape first, lose the weight and then have at it.
There are no quick 6 weeks fixes here bro.
If you do do it, you're probably going to either gain (more) weight or if you think winny is going to help, get ready for the reality of ED or EOD injections that are going to leave that area sore as hell (getting hit in a delt that took a shot of 50 mg of winnny is NOT fun).
James toney took winny (twice) and he's a fvcking fat ass, didn't help him at all, it just got him caught (twice).
Lose the weight first!!!
Get in Shape!!!
Add healthy weight IF you NEED to.

[Hiphopharry]

hope that helps, I am sorry if I sound like a dickhead, but I see a lot of partiers in the gym who do a summer cycle then don't stick with it, and drop off..

[Ani-mal]

Thanks for the advice bro....the more I think about it, and the more I listen to u guys talk the more it makes sense....I've been losing the weight naturally, and started to feel young again...(not like i'm that old 27) but everything has been going good...I felt i needed a boost but if its gonna hurt my stamina than i dont wanna do it.

2 weeks ago I was a out of shape 165 pounder...now I'm probably around 160.....I knowfor height I should be fighting at probably 130 - 135....I'm 5'5. I'm getting back into it kinda late but yeah....(amateur boxing)

Thanks,