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    Newbie cycle

    OK, I've read a lot of arguments about whether a newbie should use sust, but that's the only test I can get, so I have no choice. That being said, any feed back on this cycle.
    Age 31
    Weight 194
    Lifting for 12 years hard with great results, but with age, gains have stopped and most weight now goes to the mid section when I try to increase calories to make strength / size gains...so it's time to hit my first ever cycle.

    I have lots of Dbol but only 10 amps of sust 250. I was thinking of cycling like this

    Dbol
    week 1-4 dbol 15mg daily

    Sust 250
    week 1 2 amps of sust 250 (sunday and wednesday)
    weeks 2-9 1 amp sust 250 weekly

    I know the sust isn't opitmal dose, but that's all I can get for now. I'm hoping it will be enough since this is my first cycle ever.
    I have clomid and tamoxifen on standby. NOt sure when to start the clomid. I'm thinking week 3 after my last sust shot???
    Thank you for your advice in advance

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    15mg of dbol is going to do absolutely nothing, the normal dosing for it is 40-50mg. It'd be more helpful if you listed your cycle in terms of mg per week and the duration used. It sounds like you should hold off your cycle for a bit until you get all of your gear together. Check out the pct forum too for more info on your pct.

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    sust needs to be used every other day. if you don't have enough gear for a proper cycle, I would recommend waiting till you can get more.

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    ^^^^^ x3

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    You can do sust at 250mg once a week and get some moderate gains that you will be happy with. I did with my first at only 250mg a week. At week 5, I was at my mom's house helping out and my sister was there and she said "Are you using sterioids?" I just told her I was getting fat. lol. Other guys said at 250mg of Sust a week I didn't have to worry about gyno cuz "it's such a low dose", but boy were they wrong!!! Use nolvadex during and after ur cycle to prevent gyno. I don't see any prob in taking the low dose of dbol either, especially becuz it's an oral and it will still work at that dose somewhat. You will notice a major difference in using what you have planned than lifting natural, and it's always better to be conservative than go crazy high dosages if your body has never seen sust or dbol b4. 9 weeks of what you have planned and I guarantee you will be happy with ur results. If not, come back on here and bash me and get me banned!
    Last edited by dt1974; 09-18-2007 at 02:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dt1974
    You can do sust at 250mg once a week and get some moderate gains that you will be happy with. I did with my first at only 250mg a week. At week 5, I was at my mom's house helping out and my sister was there and she said "Are you using sterioids?" I just told her I was getting fat. lol. Other guys said at 250mg of Sust a week I didn't have to worry about gyno cuz "it's such a low dose", but boy were they wrong!!! Use nolvadex during and after ur cycle to prevent gyno. I don't see any prob in taking the low dose of dbol either, especially becuz it's an oral and it will still work at that dose somewhat. You will notice a major difference in using what you have planned than lifting natural, and it's always better to be conservative than go crazy high dosages if your body has never seen sust or dbol b4. 9 weeks of what you have planned and I guarantee you will be happy with ur results. If not, come back on here and bash me and get me banned!
    Using sust once a week you would be much more prone to negative side effects, as your blood levels will not be stable at all. Sust contains short esters and should be shot every other day for the most stable levels.

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    It took me a while to find and puchase all of the things i needed for my first cycle, but i am damn glad i had everything. Why do something half assed?
    2 amps (500mg) of sust might be enough for a week, but id shoot it eod too. It has prop in it thats why.
    12 weeks would be the length i would run along with
    adex or exmestane
    nolva and clomid on hand

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