2nd Cycle.. Doesn't Seem to be working too good...

[extra300]

6'4" 200 lbs

1st cycle
weeks 1-10 Deca 300
weeks 1-12 Test Cyp 500
Pretty good results. gained about 20 lbs. Kept 15 of them..

2nd cycle (already in week 7)
weeks 1-14 Test Cyp 600
weeks 1-14 EQ 500
Both are taken at the same time every 3.5 days..
ex. T300 + E250 every 3.5 days

Im still working out the same amount and eating, but not getting the results of last time. I feel smaller than last time, but probably a little more cut. My goal was, to get to 220 by the end of the cycle, but it's not looking too good.

Should I add something or change the amounts?

Thanks....

[akh 1985]

you do realize eq doesnt have the same muscle building effects as deca and that takes a while to see the minimal results that it produces

[extra300]

yea i understand it takes longer, but I still thought i would see better results than this..

How do the amounts look?
Do you think i should add some Deca to the cycle as well?

[taiboxa]

EQ is the absolute crappiest/weakest/lamest/gayest/dumbest/retardedest compound ever
that is all carry on.

[extra300]

EQ is the absolute crappiest/weakest/lamest/gayest/dumbest/retardedest compound ever
that is all carry on.

Yea, i think i agree..

[Brent_G]

what do you think about tren tho? lol

[taiboxa]

what do you think about tren tho? lol

i like it lots

[ShadetreeJones]

EQ is the absolute crappiest/weakest/lamest/gayest/dumbest/retardedest compound ever
that is all carry on.

I have seen you state this opininon on eq in other threads as well. Why the absolute hatred for this compound? Have you tried it and seen minimal results or did you have an adverse reaction to it or what?

If you had to stack one or the other would you use eq or primo, I remember you hated that one as well.

[taiboxa]

i have ran EQ.. at any and every dose for every type of duration u can think of.. just seeing if i could ever get ANYTHING TO HAPPEN other than just an increase in vascularity.... i got more gains from var.. and VAR is for WOMEN.

personally tren and masteron give me better vascularity than EQ.. and the gains from masteron blow the hell outta EQ and th gains from TREN blow the hella outta mast.. so its like why waste money on it when there are other compounds that are so much more effective..

[extra300]

ok.. so back to the question..

Should i add something to this cycle?

thanks

[akh 1985]

do you have more test?

[Johny-too-small]

ok.. so back to the question..

Should i add something to this cycle?

thanks

What about your diet? Are you eating more?

[extra300]

I could up the Test..
What about adding Deca? would it be too late in the cycle?

As far as the diet, it is the same if not a little better..

[akh 1985]

i wouldnt up the test

but if you wanted to add some deca your going to have to extend your cycle

[extra300]

i wouldnt up the test

but if you wanted to add some deca your going to have to extend your cycle

thats fine.. i would rather extend it than make it feel like i wasted my time..

how much and how long you thinking?

[Johny-too-small]

Forget adding extra compounds. Eat more.

[akh 1985]

thats fine.. i would rather extend it than make it feel like i wasted my time..

how much and how long you thinking?

you could add deca but like i said you will have to extend your cycle.

I personally would add tren a for 6 weeks and extenc my cycle about 3 weeks

[extra300]

Forget adding extra compounds. Eat more.

Really not thinking the diet is the problem..

My diet is at least as good as last time, Probably better

[Maldorf]

EQ is the absolute crappiest/weakest/lamest/gayest/dumbest/retardedest compound ever
that is all carry on.

I dont really agree with this, i think for me EQ works better. Much of the weight brought on by Deca is water retention, and EQ seems not to do that. Sure you dont gain as much weight, but my strength seems to increase just as much and I dont get all the water weight gain.

[will_work]

EQ is the absolute crappiest/weakest/lamest/gayest/dumbest/retardedest compound ever
that is all carry on.

lol..

[Johny-too-small]

Really not thinking the diet is the problem..

My diet is at least as good as last time, Probably better

What is your diet?

[buffgator]

What was your starting weight of your cycle if you weigh 200 right now? Also you do realize that your first cycle is like a gift from the steroids god, and it will be rare to do another one that gives you the same gains. 20+ pounds is allot to gain in one cycle. I only gain about 12 lbs a year and I cycle real consistent.

[millionairemurph]

Yeah you cant gain 20+ lean lbs a year or everybody would look like jay cutler.

[Serotonin]

Couple of my friends tried EQ and they felt like it did nothing. They've also done tren, which the results slap you in your dick almost instantly.

If I were to try something for hardening I'd add some masteron to tren. But, in your case the Deca will give considerable more mass than EQ.

[getpaid]

i have ran EQ.. at any and every dose for every type of duration u can think of.. just seeing if i could ever get ANYTHING TO HAPPEN other than just an increase in vascularity.... i got more gains from var.. and VAR is for WOMEN.

personally tren and masteron give me better vascularity than EQ.. and the gains from masteron blow the hell outta EQ and th gains from TREN blow the hella outta mast.. so its like why waste money on it when there are other compounds that are so much more effective..

I agree 100%, I know its JMO but EQ blows donkey balls!!!
Tren is greatest thing I have ever done!!!

[ironaddict69]

i agree with what the bros slightly above me said. you cant expect to keep gaining tons of weight from this stuff. in example, I was already strong before the first time i did halotestin. i expected to add like 80 lbs to all my top lifts. did that happen? hell no, but i did add around 45-55. same thing with getting bigger, if you added 20 lbs each time, wed all be enourmous. if your looking for massive size increases, next time do test, tren, and anadrol as a kickstart. THAT will make u at least 15 lbs heavier when ur done, and tren=LEAN.

[ironaddict69]

getpaid ur lookin buff by the way. keep ur head up with the current situation. same thing is going on with me as of now, but we cant shrink. eat, sleep, lift repeat right?

[extra300]

K.. Well im thinking of adding some Deca to the last 7 weeks.. I will keep the Test and the EQ at the same amounts and add Deca.

Any suggestions on and amount to add?

thanks

[ironaddict69]

yeah 400 mg. shit i grow of 200 mg of deca, no joke.

[mx3]

K.. Well im thinking of adding some Deca to the last 7 weeks.. I will keep the Test and the EQ at the same amounts and add Deca.

Any suggestions on and amount to add?

thanks

If your going to add deca this late in the game I would frontload for sure.

[longhorn814]

K.. Well im thinking of adding some Deca to the last 7 weeks.. I will keep the Test and the EQ at the same amounts and add Deca.

Any suggestions on and amount to add?

thanks

more compounds is not the answer..7 weeks of deca wont do much for you either..if you want to gain more weight, you need to eat more..its that simple..but you cant expect to gain 20 lbs every cycle like the others have said

[legobricks]

I actually am on a test and EQ cycle right now and to be honest i have gained some lean lbs off of it. Nothing near as impressive as dbol or deca or anything like that but def. gained some as people have noticed. Satisfied with it but ill asure you that it will be the last time i use it. Try it once and thats it!

[extra300]

more compounds is not the answer..7 weeks of deca wont do much for you either..if you want to gain more weight, you need to eat more..its that simple..but you cant expect to gain 20 lbs every cycle like the others have said

I never said i was looking to gain 20 lbs every cycle! But gain something, Yea that would be nice. Otherwise i cant see spending money and sticking needles in my body twice a week for fun..

[Johny-too-small]

Why dont you post your diet, bro? You might think its awesome, but Ive learned from my own exp. that it is what needs the most work.

[legobricks]

more compounds is not the answer..7 weeks of deca wont do much for you either..if you want to gain more weight, you need to eat more..its that simple..but you cant expect to gain 20 lbs every cycle like the others have said

I also noticed a few things off of EQ. Appetite increase was the same as a test only cycle for me so i just forcefed myself as always. Vascularity was a little bit more enhanced. Pumps were pretty damn good (i give a lot of that to the test tho) Definition was increased in arms/chest/back/legs/obliques...hmmmm delts have always been up there with definition tho. So all in all it was a great "summer bulk" happy with the results so far (currently on week 11). Oh and to answer your "on week 7 and nothing so far" it took about to week 8 to start noticing changes. Kept my diet up tho so i really can attribute gains towards that. still happy with alll that tho!

[taiboxa]

yeah 400 mg. shit i grow of 200 mg of deca, no joke.

yep i know people who make better gains of 200mg deca/wk than they do from 1g test/wk
infact i'd say im one of these people.

[longhorn814]

I never said i was looking to gain 20 lbs every cycle! But gain something, Yea that would be nice. Otherwise i cant see spending money and sticking needles in my body twice a week for fun..

well post up your diet and break it down into macros for starters...im sure theres room for improvement...be aware than Eq is a very weak anabolic compound so dont expect much in terms of size..only thing i notice is increased vascularity after about 8 weeks though

[buffgator]

You still never told us what you weighed the beginning of the cycle vs right now. Also how long did you wait between cycles?

[tadpoleboyy]

im on eq 600/wk test 250 wk/ , and i feel that the eq is working, put on more than 30 lbs so far

[PEWN]

im on eq 600/wk test 250 wk/ , and i feel that the eq is working, put on more than 30 lbs so far

30 pounds ... wtf ? ........ wht did you start at 150...... thats alot of wieght to gain on one cycle..