Dianabol problem URGENT

[dianabolguy]

Hello everybody.
First, thanks for a great and educative site...all the members here are really amazing..

As for me ..I have a problem to discuss that I'd really appreciate anyone helping in..in 2000, I was 19 ..bodybuilding with just proteins and creatine..and I decided to take a dianabol course..So i got 60 of the thai pink pills (5mg) each, and had a course of 6 weeks, starting with 1 pill a day at 1st week, 2 at the 2nd, 3 at the 3rd, then vice versa, as for coming off the course gradually...But...the problem lies afterwards, where i was so stupid that I did not have a PCT..none!!! no clomid, nolva, HCG...so after about 3 months i noticed a testicular atrophy....and after that ..a bit of gyno..now,..in 2007... I still have gyno..and as for my testicles and dick,,they recovered a little bit..but still below the original size..also i have some erectile dysfunction...
My question to you is: should I go ahead now and have a PCT alone? or must I have another cycle course and THEN do a PCT?
Plus, I did a blood test 3 months ago and here are the results..


Test-------------------Range---------------------------------------Result:

FT3---------------4.26 to 8.10 pmol/l--------------------------------- 5.91
FT4 --------------10.0 to 28.2 pmol/l ---------------------------------13.8
TSH -------------0.465 to 4.86 mlU/l ---------------------------------1.95
FSH-------------F 1.98 to 11.6; M 1.55 to 9.74 mlU/ml --------- 2.75
LH -------------- F 0.833 to 15.5 mlU/ml --------------------------- 3.75
Estradiol -------F 14.9 to 1404.0; M 19.7 to 242 pmol/l ---------49
Testosterone--M 4.56 to 28.2; F 0.198 to 2.67 nmol/l ----------10.1
total Protein----6.0 - 8.4 gm/dL -------------------------------------- 6.9
Albumin --------3.5 - 5.0 gm/dL ---------------------------------------4.1
Globulin --------2.3 - 3.5 gm/dL ---------------------------------------2.8


From this analysis, Some people noticed that I have Low FreeT3 and LowTT...
Lastly, I went and did a semen anamysis, and found out that I am still in the range of fertility, motility, etc...but in the low side too....
So has that light cycle affected me? and what are the best solutions to reverse effects?

Many thanks to all who gives their opinion !!!

[sitries]

wow. just goes to show how important PCT actually is. i know guys who swear they dont use pct at all. as for me. i use hcg during cycle and then nolvadex afterwards. That cycle you mentioned witht the dbol is ****ing light aswel. im suprised you got gyno from that.

If i were you id run a test enanthate cycle at 500mg for 10weeks. use hcg throughout the cycle from the 4th week onwards at 500iu every 4days. then do a month of nolvadex 2weeks after ur last shot of enanthate.

iF you dont want to run a cycle then maybe you should just get some hcg. but tbh id run the cycle.

[100%NATURAL-theGH]

Wow don't get me wrong but your placing WAY too much emphasis on PCT. It's very helpful for recovering your natural levels faster but most importantly faster to preserve your new muscle. I believe I have low test levels because of things I took when I was 14 durring my natural developement and you may be in the same boat or you may have naturally low levels. Also doing a PCT NOW or after another cycle isn't going to reverse any damage done years ago. If you have low levels then take what you need and cycle, or deal with it but don't plan on changing your levels permanently you'll just be wasting your time. I'm sorry if it's not what you wanted to hear I just thought you should get it straight. Good Luck.

[dianabolguy]

thanx everyone for the quick replies. I am open to hear more though...and yeah..its ok guys,, hit me straight with any fact, no matter how harsh..honesty is always good...anyways...I was thinking though..that dianabol stays in the body for a long time right? such as 10 years i guess...and as far as i know..it may also has converted to estrogen, causing my body a low TT level...if i am wrong please correct me..thats why i was thinking to have a HCG PCT, but then i thought maybe I should do a testosterone+deca durabolin cycle first to gain some TT levels and also enhance the testicular atrophy and erection problem...then would do a PCT to flush all the negative side effects once and for all...how about that ? will it affect me the way i am thinking?

thanx all.. !!

[Merc..]

So you are 26 now??

The only cycle you did was when you where 19 ??

Also you t3 and test levels are in range..


Merc.

[sitries]

if your going to do another cycle m8 then deca is a bad choice for you! It will shut you down hard!!! just take a test only cycle - ur sex drive will go through the roof! and hopefully if you cycle it properly and do a correct PCT it will kickstart your test levels for the future too.

[Merc..]

Also here a link to the Dbol profile ..

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199829

Merc.

[G-1000]

So what.

What was you levels before?? You could have been that low at your age any way. There also not that far out even know they look low on pappier. You are still in range for your age. Do you think every one is on the high side, no.

[100%NATURAL-theGH]

thanx everyone for the quick replies. I am open to hear more though...and yeah..its ok guys,, hit me straight with any fact, no matter how harsh..honesty is always good...anyways...I was thinking though..that dianabol stays in the body for a long time right? such as 10 years i guess...and as far as i know..it may also has converted to estrogen, causing my body a low TT level...if i am wrong please correct me..thats why i was thinking to have a HCG PCT, but then i thought maybe I should do a testosterone+deca durabolin cycle first to gain some TT levels and also enhance the testicular atrophy and erection problem...then would do a PCT to flush all the negative side effects once and for all...how about that ? will it affect me the way i am thinking?

thanx all.. !!

Your really missing the point my friend. Your not going to flush anything out or change anything by doing another cycle or PCT. ONLY DO THEM TO GET BIG AND TO RECOVER FROM IT. That cycle is so long ago it is no longer effecting you and if it had long term damage it's permanent... that's what I'm getting at. Your train of thought is "unique" but there are no dumb questions...

[dianabolguy]

aha...ok...makes sense. yes it was my only cycle...well then what is the shortest cycle for testosterone only i can go for ? I really would like to have a light one as well..

thanks guys!

[FLBMWMech]

aha...ok...makes sense. yes it was my only cycle...well then what is the shortest cycle for testosterone only i can go for ? I really would like to have a light one as well..

thanks guys!

I really doubt that you would permanently damage yourself from 6 weeks of light Dbol use at 19...

at 26 your test levels will naturally be on the decline (think of all your naturally inshape friends at 20-24 and then look at them as they hit 26-30.. big difference in their physiques)

Try a very simple (and light) cycle like 500mg wk of sust for 12 weeks, HCG use through cycle, anti-E's, and proper PCT. I think you'll notice a remarkable difference in your physique.

[100%NATURAL-theGH]

I really doubt that you would permanently damage yourself from 6 weeks of light Dbol use at 19...

at 26 your test levels will naturally be on the decline (think of all your naturally inshape friends at 20-24 and then look at them as they hit 26-30.. big difference in their physiques)

Try a very simple (and light) cycle like 500mg wk of sust for 12 weeks, HCG use through cycle, anti-E's, and proper PCT. I think you'll notice a remarkable difference in your physique.

I wouldn't do sust use test e... your blood levels will be more stable and I get the least amount of bloat and sides from enenthate out of all long estered testosterones.

[Merc..]

Here is a link to my blood work sticky.. Lots of good info .. Might give you some feed to some of your questions..

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=254423

Merc.

[dianabolguy]

great..thanx everyone for your opinions..by the way...is it safe to just have a test cycle alone? I think it should be stacked with somehting like sust or winstrol...do i have to do that ?
another thing..i suffered from water and fat retention since then and a bloated waist...any suggestion ???

Appreciate all your responses...!

[Amorphic]

test cycle alone is perfect, its what you should have run in the first place. Run it with arimidex at .5mg ed with a proper pct and you'll be fine and dandy.

500mg a week for 12 weeks

[dianabolguy]

alright...what about suggesting some of the anti-Es ?? what is really good?? plus..using arimidex will be taking place of using clomid ,nolva, and hcg...so what pct will i use then?

thanx a lot..

[dianabolguy]

also, how about provyron? and legalon? whats your opinions regarding the use?
thanx for the help

[dianabolguy]

any help would be appreciated!!

[Merc..]

alright...what about suggesting some of the anti-Es ?? what is really good?? plus..using arimidex will be taking place of using clomid ,nolva, and hcg...so what pct will i use then?

thanx a lot..

Please check out the pct forum for some pct suggestions..

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=77


Merc.

[Merc..]

You could use a SERM and an AI for pct..


Merc.