Saizen HGH cycle question

[pump2356]

My first cycle I did testosterone enanthate e5d for 9 weeks and gained about 14lbs. I'm only about 5'5 and went from 172-185.6 My next cycle I was considering adding in HGH to 500mg of testosterone enanthate for 10 weeks or longer if I can afford saizen's click pens since they are very expensive.

Would the use of saizen HGH at 3iu's during the cycle help me lose a few percetages of bf while gaining 10-15 lbs of mass stacked with test? Would it aid the testosterone in gaining more mass without having to up the steroids?
I am then cutting about 4 weeks after this cycle for 2 months. Is it also possible to get down to 8% bf during the cutting phase with just using HGH alone for thise 2.5 months? I"ll be getting a nutrionist during this time too. I'm not a big fan of clen or T3 so I wish to avoid them.

I have a scheduled sport camp I'm preparing for so lossing some bf during the bulk would take some extra stress off me worrying if I will be at a low bf in time to be able to condition hard again since I took A LOT of time off for just putting on size.I probably shouldn't have overate during all this time bulking since it's screwed with my bf. I began at 100lbs basically though.

Thanks !!!

[Twizzted]

I did some research on this very thing on this board. Yes all of it would help. Some would say if you are trying to cut BF there are cheaper ways to do it quickly than HGH.

[pump2356]

I did some research on this very thing on this board. Yes all of it would help. Some would say if you are trying to cut BF there are cheaper ways to do it quickly than HGH.

Thanks for your input.
Yeah I know, but I have higher than normal blood pressure so clen probably wouldn't be a good idea and I have a history of thyroid problems in my family so no T3 for me.

[Twizzted]

HGH would be best then.LOL My BP is high also and Clen made me more gittery than a first day whore. And the T4 made me feel strange also. Didn't much care for it.
I am on a very simialar cycle as you now and have lost considerable BF. My IU's are at 5 now starting at half that. I have been on this cycle for about 5 weeks now. I think you will love the results!
This is my 1st cycle of HGH so I am far from an expert. The Test will only augment the HGH. Good luck bro!

[pump2356]

HGH would be best then.LOL My BP is high also and Clen made me more gittery than a first day whore. And the T4 made me feel strange also. Didn't much care for it.
I am on a very simialar cycle as you now and have lost considerable BF. My IU's are at 5 now starting at half that. I have been on this cycle for about 5 weeks now. I think you will love the results!
This is my 1st cycle of HGH so I am far from an expert. The Test will only augment the HGH. Good luck bro!

Yeah it seems bf loss with growth hormone is less dependant on length and dosage. Are you using a usa type pharm company or generic-ug or jintropin? I keep reading that you can get away with less iu a day if using like humatrope or saizen compared to jintropin,etc.

What dosage does one start at for saizen if trying to work up to 3iu for 10-12weeks? I know on gensci's website they say for jins to start at 2iu for a month and then go up, does that mean I should start at 1iu a day for a month?!?
Thanks.

[Twizzted]

I would start at 2. I did.LOL I was up to 5 in less than a month with 0 sides. I don't think 3 is such a serious amount as to be to concerned about going up to to quickly. But that is just my opinion.
My logic was if I had any issues I would just back down some. 25% is the magic number from what I read. I am using generic blue tops. I would say start at 2 for 2 weeks and then go up to 3 in two doses daily and see how that works for you. We are talking really small amounts.
As far as the different brands.......I am not knowledgable enough to say for certain what is better or how you should dose yourself with them.

[pump2356]

I would start at 2. I did.LOL I was up to 5 in less than a month with 0 sides. I don't think 3 is such a serious amount as to be to concerned about going up to to quickly. But that is just my opinion.
My logic was if I had any issues I would just back down some. 25% is the magic number from what I read. I am using generic blue tops. I would say start at 2 for 2 weeks and then go up to 3 in two doses daily and see how that works for you. We are talking really small amounts.
As far as the different brands.......I am not knowledgable enough to say for certain what is better or how you should dose yourself with them.

Okay thanks I'll do 2iu's for a few weeks and if it's effective for noticable fat loss I'll probably just stay there at that dosage and run the cycle longer . It seems many are getting good fat loss results while bulking on low dosages of HGH even at young ages like myself.

I have access to only the saizen click pens and they seem confusing on how to use them. The thing has two bottles in a glass tank. I guess the thing mixes and injects itself all I have to do is set up the needle properly each time I guess. I wish I could get the cool pen by saizen that just came out, it's supposed to not even carry a needle but tiny pinchers that put the hgh in somehow.

[Twizzted]

Yeah those things are cool looking. Also that stuff is WAY more expensive!LOL I don't blame you for sticking at 2. It should be 3-4 weeks before you can see anything and that is minimal at best.
I was down a year sitting my ass on a couch due to injury. At my age I developed a head rest for my wife while she gives me a BJ. So I could see results pretty quick.
You sound as though you are active and currently in shape. Don't get frusterated if you can't tell anything in that time frame.
It is melting the belly fat off me. I swear by the stuff.