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    Who has or knows about credit card debt consolidation?

    I am thinking of consolidating my credit card debt. I have 15000 dollars worth. I am tired of living pay check to pay check, and every month I am usualy 100-300 dollars short on bills, so i had to rack up the credit cards to stay on top. But now I feel that living like this I will never get any where. I want to get this out of the way so that I can actualy have expendable income, and money to put in savings. What can you guys tell me. Also how will this affect buying a vehicle? I really want to get a diesel truck next year.

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    Consolidating the debt will be just as detrimental to your credit as claiming bankruptcy. If you claim chapter 7 it will wipe the debt clean, you will not have to pay anything back and you will begin to improve your credit immediately after discharge. If you consolidate or claim chapter 13 you will have to pay a portion if not all of it back (without interest mind you) and your credit will not start to improve until you have repaid the debt.

    Pay it as agreed...or claim chapter 7

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    Its very confusing. Every one that I talk to contradicts the last person that I talked to. Some people say you might as well just go bankrupt, others say that debt consolidating is no big deal. They are telling me that if I consolidate the 15,000 then I will probably only have to pay back like 9000. I spend like 400 a month on credit card debt, and one place is telling me that I will have a fixed loan at like 250 per month. Its all confusing.

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    Do NOT do credit card debt consolidating. Those companies are ****ing snakes feeding off the desperate.

    I am in the same boat as you and I looked at consolidating, did some reading and found them to be just as I said above.

    I am thinking about bankruptcy of some sort.

    Does anyone know how to go about claiming bankruptcy?
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    see an attorney.. with the new laws, it's harder, but not impossible..

    it used to be that one could just do it themselves, but the court doesn't like this and you are likely to get bounced out..

    but filing will get the lenders off your ass, and if you don't go through with it, many of them will just have written off the debt..
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    The problem is I have a credit score of 700, and have never missed a payment or been late. The last 6 months though I have had to put like 300 a month on credit cards to stay on top of things. I hate to go from a perfect credit record to bankrupt. Especialy since I am hoping to buy a home in the next 2 years.

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    Dont do it. They will F*** up your credit. Have you sat down and done a budget? If not that should be your first step. BTW, BK is not the easy way out anymore either. Unless you can show the judge that you can not work, more than likely the judge will make you file Chap 13, which will not let you walk from the unsecured debt, just lower your payments, but you will pay more in interest in the end and it screws your credit up too. BTW, I'm in the financial field here in Florida. If you want to discuss specifics, feel free to PM.

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    debt consolidation is viewed by lenders as the same when qualifying for a loan.. you need to be 2 years past the discharge with good reestablishment for you to get a loan..
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    debt consolidation is viewed by lenders as the same when qualifying for a loan.. you need to be 2 years past the discharge with good reestablishment for you to get a loan..
    You still might be able to get a loan less in than 2 years, but your interest rate will be jacked...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stock View Post
    You still might be able to get a loan less in than 2 years, but your interest rate will be jacked...
    that's true..

    VA is 1 year after discharge..

    Here in minnesota all but 3 subprime lenders closed doors and left the state after aug 1 this year..
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    If you're credit score is as good as you say, goto the bank and see if you can get a personal loan with a low fixed rate. Even if they'll lend you $6,000 or so, that should reduce your debt enough to lower your monthly payments, and be able to pay a much lower interest rate. Some of those credit cards are between 16-22% which is sickening. So if you could get a personal loan, and pay that off, you'd have a much lower rate, without having to use a debt consolidation company and F your credit up...

    I do not agree at all with the talk here about how to skip out on your debt, or figure out ways of not paying it back...I have a buddy who owns investment properties, and one lady got behind $4,000 worth of rent (3 months), and then he took her to court and they ordered her to pay back $200/month for the next X amount of years. However, she just recently filed bankruptcy and now he's stiffed for about $3,600 worth of rent. So, figuring out ways to stiff someone for money is pretty ****ed up in my opinion. It was your choice to accrue the debt, and I'm sure that you have items/services purchased with that debt...trying to figure out ways to skip out on it is ****ed up....

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    Good Post, as usual, Godfather...

    If you can get a bank loan, it should be around prime +1 with your credit. Then you can catagorize your debt from lowest to highest. Take the extra money and apply it to the lowest balance credit card until it's paid off, then take that full payment and apply it to the next one on your list. This type of debt repayment will have a snowball effect and that debt will be paid off quicker than you think. BTW, 90% go back to their old spending habits even after all their debts are paid off. Learn to stay in the other 10%.
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    Lifes gets hard though godfather, I imagine you make a healthy chunk of change more than I do. Its allot easier (if disciplined) to live off of 70-100 thousand a years vs my thirty thousand. Also its not like im not hard working only the last 4 months have I dropped down to 45 hours a week, I spent the last year and a half working 65-75 a week to stay affloat.
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    Sorry to hear this.What are your monthly MIN payments for these cards?

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    citi 5000 12% $90
    citi 2000 23% $75
    citi 3000 23% $75
    citi 4000 12% $78
    best buy 900 23% $30
    student loans 1000 5% $40

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    I am a couple months behind on one credit card payment.

    I am not trying to get out of anything, I just need someone to sit down with a lay out a solid plan to get this shit taken care of.

    I have no problem paying it back, just as I had no problem "borrowing" it.
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    when i first got out of school.... i had huge debt..... 4,000 on one card and 5,000 on another .... i use bank of america and suntrust...... for the cards.... suntrust had a loan program to where I put all the credit card balance on one card with 1.5% intrest..... but ended up paying it off once i got a job with in 3 months of graduating .... but regaurdless there are ways to get loans with lower intrest rates to pay off your credit cards..... pending on credit score of course.....

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    did you have to have collateral?

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    Oh, man . . . If you file bankruptcy, you'll be screwed for life. On credit applications, they're gonna ask you, "Have you ever filed bankruptcy?" On top of that, you'll be subject to other legal constraints when it comes to debt (see a lawyer how that works in your state). Then again, if you keep your nose to the grindstone and pay off these bills, then when you finally get them all paid, your credit report is gonna say, "This guy reluctantly pays his bills," and that's gonna affect your credit.

    If you can't pay your bills, here's what you do:
    1) See a lawyer to find out what constitutes credit card fraud in your state, and pay the minimums for as long as it takes to avoid breaking that law (usually, you gotta stop using your credit card, and pay 6 months minimum--but verify with your lawyer).
    2) Pick a few credit cards that you want to keep, and continue to do business with them.
    3) Default on everything else.
    4) Prepare yourself for the unhappy phone calls and threatening letters from bill collectors. Console yourself in that they can't really do anything (there is no "debtor's prison") but be rude.
    4a) get a new unlisted phone number, if necessary
    4b) it the bill collectors call you at work, tell them you'll "send them something" in the mail that night. Then, send them a certified letter telling them not to call you at work, but to contact you by mail at your home address. (Then, if they call you at work, you can sue them for 3 time whatever they're trying to collect).
    4c) if you've charged something big that they can reposess, like a TV, they might get a court judgement so they can enter your house one time so they can seize their property and take it back. But if you've charged up food, gas, travel, well, they aren't gonna get that back.
    5) Brace yourself for about 3 years of being pestered by bill collectors. The primary debt holders will sell your debt to other collectors, and after a while, those people will sell those debts to some others. Anytime a new owner of the debt calls, repeat steps 4a and 4b.


    Ordinarily, I'd have some sympathy for businesses like banks, but when they send out as many unsolicited loan applications to as many people who don't want them (or who are no longer alive), that shows me they don't know what they're doing, and they don't care if they don't know what they're doing. So, screw 'em.

    If they put a note in your credit record something like, "Wow, this guy was having big financial troubles, but he worked 3 jobs and 7 days a week just so he could pay off his debt, and we're quite happy, and we recommend him as a customer," well, that would be one thing. But they don't. You can work your a-- off trying to pay off your debt, and even though you went out of your way to do the right thing, they're gonna dis ya.

    So, default (legally) on some of your debt, keep paying on a few credit cards, and you'll still be able to use credit cards. After 7 years, everything will be forgotton, and you'll never have had been bankrupt (which is forever).

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffgator View Post
    citi 5000 12% $90
    citi 2000 23% $75
    citi 3000 23% $75

    citi 4000 12% $78
    best buy 900 23% $30
    student loans 1000 5% $40
    I would try to get a personal loan from the bank for the amounts in RED...You're getting ****ed up the ass on those interest rates man, if the bank gives you a personal loan for $5,900 for the ones in red, I think you'll be in a much better financial situation. Even if you end up paying something close to the same amount a month, at least your interest rate will be 6% or so on one amount which will eventually be payed off, probably sooner than paying the minimums on your credit cards... And one other thing, I wasn't really attacking anyone with my post, just that the convo went in the direction of sounding like the people in the ghetto who pop out children, or start claiming children that aren't even theirs, so that they can get their "government cheese" every month, or whatever the **** they call it...

    And buff, im probably not as well off as you think, when Im done school Im gonna be about $200g's in debt...

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    Wow thats allot of student debt g-father!

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    See if you can get a decent percentage rate on the loan, then use that to pay off all your cards. I know my bank only goes to 10K for a personal loan but all banks are different.

    When you are that far in debt with credit cards you are F#$#$ed. Most of your payments will go towards the interest and only pay a small portion if the actually payment.



    No one should even have a credit card that has a 20%+ rate, that is just sick.
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    10k would be good. I failed to mention that the one for 5000 is zero percent until october 2008. So if I could get 10k and then keep the one at 5k that would be fantastic. Still does any one know if I can get a personal loan with no collateral?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffgator View Post
    10k would be good. I failed to mention that the one for 5000 is zero percent until october 2008. So if I could get 10k and then keep the one at 5k that would be fantastic. Still does any one know if I can get a personal loan with no collateral?
    Yes. Go to your bank and apply. First find out the rates and how much you can take. They will ask you what you are going to do with the money (they can because its theirs) i would just tell them you are paying off personal debt with your parents. Don't tell them you are using it to pay CC's off.

    The MOST important thing you can do once the cards are paid by the loan is to call each CC company and cancel the card ASAP !!!! Or you will just fall right back into that hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock View Post
    Oh, man . . . If you file bankruptcy, you'll be screwed for life. On credit applications, they're gonna ask you, "Have you ever filed bankruptcy?" On top of that, you'll be subject to other legal constraints when it comes to debt (see a lawyer how that works in your state). Then again, if you keep your nose to the grindstone and pay off these bills, then when you finally get them all paid, your credit report is gonna say, "This guy reluctantly pays his bills," and that's gonna affect your credit.

    If you can't pay your bills, here's what you do:
    1) See a lawyer to find out what constitutes credit card fraud in your state, and pay the minimums for as long as it takes to avoid breaking that law (usually, you gotta stop using your credit card, and pay 6 months minimum--but verify with your lawyer).
    2) Pick a few credit cards that you want to keep, and continue to do business with them.
    3) Default on everything else.
    4) Prepare yourself for the unhappy phone calls and threatening letters from bill collectors. Console yourself in that they can't really do anything (there is no "debtor's prison") but be rude.
    4a) get a new unlisted phone number, if necessary
    4b) it the bill collectors call you at work, tell them you'll "send them something" in the mail that night. Then, send them a certified letter telling them not to call you at work, but to contact you by mail at your home address. (Then, if they call you at work, you can sue them for 3 time whatever they're trying to collect).
    4c) if you've charged something big that they can reposess, like a TV, they might get a court judgement so they can enter your house one time so they can seize their property and take it back. But if you've charged up food, gas, travel, well, they aren't gonna get that back.
    5) Brace yourself for about 3 years of being pestered by bill collectors. The primary debt holders will sell your debt to other collectors, and after a while, those people will sell those debts to some others. Anytime a new owner of the debt calls, repeat steps 4a and 4b.


    Ordinarily, I'd have some sympathy for businesses like banks, but when they send out as many unsolicited loan applications to as many people who don't want them (or who are no longer alive), that shows me they don't know what they're doing, and they don't care if they don't know what they're doing. So, screw 'em.

    If they put a note in your credit record something like, "Wow, this guy was having big financial troubles, but he worked 3 jobs and 7 days a week just so he could pay off his debt, and we're quite happy, and we recommend him as a customer," well, that would be one thing. But they don't. You can work your a-- off trying to pay off your debt, and even though you went out of your way to do the right thing, they're gonna dis ya.

    So, default (legally) on some of your debt, keep paying on a few credit cards, and you'll still be able to use credit cards. After 7 years, everything will be forgotton, and you'll never have had been bankrupt (which is forever).

    Thats some pretty bad advice there Tock.

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    Debt consolidation messed my credit upon completion of the program. My score was just above 600. After 5 painful years of paying off through debt consolidation, my credit scores dropped 30pts. Called "Debt Free" and talked to a couple of consultants, they all didn't have any ideas..... I found out in some forums that people complained about their credit scores dropping after their program was over.
    It took me another year to get my credit score to up to current 620.

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    DONT DO IT!!!! they really mess with your credit . Its better to just slog thru it . Its almost better to consolidate with a personal loan, pay off the credit cards , only have just one payment . Your credit rating should get you a low rate with out the high apr of your credit cards.

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    Bro i worked with Capital One, If you can, stay away from debt consolidation, it does indeed hurt your credit.

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    Mr. Gator.. You have PM. I'm tired now so I won't post all the info I have on the open board for now.. but I will get around to it.

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