First cycle

[joshhall_22]

I am considering starting my first cycle but i am unshure as to what one would be the best. i have herd that Finaplex does wanders i just want to bulk up.....

22, 6' 4" , 190 lbs i have been training for 2 years with barley any results i am 15% body fat

[10nispro]

Welcome to AR....

At 6'4" 190 you don't need to look at AAS yet. You need to tweak the diet and up the calories. You are still young and have lots of natural test floating around. Dont rush and research here and ask smart questions and you will know the time to start.

[Big]

Welcome. At 22, 6'4" and 190lbs your diet needs serious work. Start with some research in the diet forum on bulking diets, then do some reading on beginner cycles and pct and post further questions when you have a basic knowledge base.

[legobricks]

Thats kinda skinny bro. I mean im 190 but only 5'7". Search around here for basic novice cycles and htat should help you out. I don't recomend finaplex only, your going to need some type of test in there. By the looks of it you also need to start reviewing your diet first before jumping into juice.

[legobricks]

Def. need to read up on bulking diets first. Also review your training program that you have outlined so check out the exercise forum as well.

[joshhall_22]

thanks guys

[basshead69]

Yeah bro that a little skinny for your height get on a good bulking diet and run a simple tese e of cyp cycle read up on the compounds you are going to use and make sure you know about PCT. Here is a cycle I would run if I was you.

Week 1-10 Test E 500mg a week inject 250mg every 3.5 days
Proper PCT imo Anthony Roberts is the best

[JoeGraft]

My first was
500 mg T E each week
35 mg d bol each day
400 mg deca EW
T3
GH 5ius each day

[longhorn814]

My first was
500 mg T E each week
35 mg d bol each day
400 mg deca EW
T3
GH 5ius each day

way too much for a first cycle

[JoeGraft]

longhorn I dont recall asking you,
longhorn if you are 6 feet tall and 250 ripped thn I will listen to you, I am sure you are 5 four and 123 pounds

[longhorn814]

longhorn I dont recall asking you,
longhorn if you are 6 feet tall and 250 ripped thn I will listen to you, I am sure you are 5 four and 123 pounds

you dont have to ask me douchebag..I was giving my opinion..if you dont like it..I dont care..keep talking shit to people and you'll end up getting banned..and for the record Im not 5'4" 123 either..but its none of your business what my stats are either

[JoeGraft]

long horn ban me if you want
just don't give your 2 little cents worth of opinion when it is not asked
OK so you are 165 lbs, sorry bro
try some hazel baby

[JoeGraft]

longhorn
houston?
ever stay at Hotel Icon?

[longhorn814]

listen douchebag, this is a message board and no one has to be asked for his opinion..joshhall started the thread asking about a first cycle and you posted that crap..that is bad advice to give to someone wanting to do a first cycle..myself and most people on here will agree that we dont like people giving bad advice on here..if youre not gonna give helpful advice...please STFU!!

[longhorn814]

longhorn
houston?
ever stay at Hotel Icon?

never stayed, but been there a few times..my friend used to managed Whiskey Bar there

[JoeGraft]

never stayed, but been there a few times..my friend used to managed Whiskey Bar there

Whiskey Bar is nice, was just there last month
The gym is the best IH have ever seen ina hotel, the equipment is all new, steel plate and red,

[joshhall_22]

Yeah bro that a little skinny for your height get on a good bulking diet and run a simple tese e of cyp cycle read up on the compounds you are going to use and make sure you know about PCT. Here is a cycle I would run if I was you.

Week 1-10 Test E 500mg a week inject 250mg every 3.5 days
Proper PCT imo Anthony Roberts is the best

Is there something i can take by mouth i kinda have a phobia of needles but if not im shure i can get past it

[joshhall_22]

My first was
500 mg T E each week
35 mg d bol each day
400 mg deca EW
T3
GH 5ius each day

how did that work for you ???

[redz]

I would start way more basic than that cycle......

just get your hands on some Test E 500mg per week (split into 2 injections)
you can do the dbol for the first 4 weeks but you dont need the deca,T3 and for sure forget about the gh not to mention that gh is VERY EXPENSIVE.

[basshead69]

Dont worry about the needles bro you will get over the injections after the first one you will look forward to injecting but imo you are too skinny to be running a cycle you need to get on a good bulking diet before you use steroids

[joshhall_22]

yea that is what every one says is test for a good starter i think i will give it a try ............ what will happen if i am skinny and i run a cycle

[basshead69]

if your not on a good bulking diet steroids wont do much for you and you will loose all the gains you get from the test get on a good diet and train naturally until your around 185 then you might be ready to cycle

[joshhall_22]

i am 195 i could be 185 in 2 weeks just by running but i do have a diet that i am working on

[Big]

longhorn I dont recall asking you,
longhorn if you are 6 feet tall and 250 ripped thn I will listen to you, I am sure you are 5 four and 123 pounds

I'm 245 and ripped, and that's too much for a first cycle. If someone starts at that many compounds and has negative sides, how would they know which compound it came from. Personally I believe a basic test cycle is perfect for beginners, then second cycle maybe add an oral for a kicker, then third test, oral, and a 19nor, etc. I feel that following a progression such as this allows one a chance to get to know how each compound affects them. If the diet is truly in check, with fresh receptors one can make great gains on a test only cycle.

[joshhall_22]

yea like i said i have been doing my homework all day and i think that is what i am going to do a good bulking diet and maybe Test E but still not shure yet thanks for the info

[jAcKeD!!!!]

My first was
500 mg T E each week
35 mg d bol each day
400 mg deca EW
T3
GH 5ius each day

ya do your homework becasue this cycle above me is garbage and is worst adice to give to someone for a first cycle.

good luck

[Phalocke]

My first was
500 mg T E each week
35 mg d bol each day
400 mg deca EW
T3
GH 5ius each day

What were your gains? I do however agree that this is to much for a first cycle.

[RBIZZY]

i would just stick to test e at 500mg a week (two 250mg shots each week) and if you absolutely need to throw something else in there maybe d-bol at 40mg a week.... up the calories to 4000-5000 a day and lift real heavy and low reps and that should do it.... and by the way, change your workout every 4-6 weeks to keep your muscles guessing or you will just level off and stop getting gains... what does your work out rutine look like?

[joshhall_22]

i would just stick to test e at 500mg a week (two 250mg shots each week) and if you absolutely need to throw something else in there maybe d-bol at 40mg a week.... up the calories to 4000-5000 a day and lift real heavy and low reps and that should do it.... and by the way, change your workout every 4-6 weeks to keep your muscles guessing or you will just level off and stop getting gains... what does your work out rutine look like?

Mon, 3 sets
Military Press - 8 - 10 Reps
Dumbell Lateral Raises - 8 - 10 Reps
Bent Over Dumbell Laterals - 8 - 10 Reps
Seated Dumbell Tricep Extensions - 8 - 10 Reps
Rope Pushdowns / Skull Crushers - 8 - 10 Reps

Tue,4 sets
Squats - 6 - 10 Reps
Stiff Leg Deadlift - 8 - 10 Reps

Wed, off

Thurs, 3 sets
Dips / Bench Dips - 8 - 10 Reps
Flat Bench Press - 6 - 10 Reps
Incline Bench Press - 6 - 10 Reps

Fri, 3 sets
Hammer Preacher Curls - 8 - 10 Reps
Close Grip Curls - 8 - 10 Reps
Overhand Grip Pullups - Maximum Reps
Bent Over Rows - 8 - 10 Reps

Sat, off

[joshhall_22]

Yeah bro that a little skinny for your height get on a good bulking diet and run a simple tese e of cyp cycle read up on the compounds you are going to use and make sure you know about PCT. Here is a cycle I would run if I was you.

Week 1-10 Test E 500mg a week inject 250mg every 3.5 days
Proper PCT imo Anthony Roberts is the best

that is what i am gonna do 10 week 250mg every 3.5 days now if i want to kick start in the begining could i take dbol or deca if so what would you recamend doseage wise

[Big]

deca is not meant to kick start a cycle, as it needs to be run really for a minimum of 10 weeks in my opinion, and you wouldn't even notice it till after the first 4 or 5 weeks. Dbol is a good kicker, but I recommend test only for a first cycle.

[JoeGraft]

ya do your homework becasue this cycle above me is garbage and is worst adice to give to someone for a first cycle.

good luck

Jacked- with a bloated gut like you, I would not talk, goodluck at the nationals

[Big]

Jacked- with a bloated gut like you, I would not talk, goodluck at the nationals

bloated gut? you gave bad advice for a first cycle, if you can't handle people disagreeing with you, you should either give better advice or you shouldn't be here.

[jAcKeD!!!!]

Jacked- with a bloated gut like you, I would not talk, goodluck at the nationals

#1lol i just came first place in my last comp last month, lvl one ( if you know anythign about bodybuilding)

#2 where did u come from? lol ive checked all ur replies and posts and it looks u have know clue what you are talkin about nor doing.

#3 telling ppl to do GH for a first cycle and not using a pct is a bad as it gets !

ppl like you should be researchin and not opening your mouth in the forum if you have no clue about anabolics.

goodluck with you cycles you fool

[Amorphic]

JoeGraft for the ban pleassse.

[longhorn814]

JoeGraft for the ban pleassse.

second that!

[joshhall_22]

Thanks for all the info

[Big]

JoeGraft for the ban pleassse.

done

[southmadejd]

done

Awwwwwwww but it looked like JoeGraft and longhorn were starting to become friends....maybe he could have made friends with the other guys too. Lol

[joshhall_22]

thanks for all the addvice guys....... this is what i have decided to do
Week 1-10 Test E 500mg a week inject 250mg every 3.5 days
PCT
20mgs nolva/ED
100mgs clomid/ED for 4 weeks i have a good diet now and a good workout so well see what happens thanks again