Testaplex P 100??

[RAILroad]

any opinions???please let me know what you know???

[Big]

I'm pretty sure it's test prop dosed at 100mg/ml.

[RAILroad]

would it be a good first cycle for me you think?
stats- 5'9 190lb- been lifting seriously for about 4 years...
I was thinking of running 100mg eod for about 6 weeks

[Big]

How old are you?
What's your body fat%?
What would your pct be?

[legobricks]

Even if stats are all in check most suggest a long acting ester like enanthate or cypionate due to its less frequent injections. Also some users experience very bad pain post injection most likely due to the BA concentation and possibly the prop ester itself. With that in mind injecting Everyday or EOD can discourage newcomers use from AAS in general. Why not choose a long estered test such as cyp or enanthate?

[RAILroad]

well all my stats are great i bench 300 and squat around 405 my bf is around 14% and my diet is real good. im wanting to lean out. i dont want to kick start with dbol and then run enanthate cause i dont anna put on much mass like i said before. just dont know really what to do. thanks for the help so far hopefully it keeps coming. for pct id use clomid and run nolva during. im not worried about pain my roomate is running prop and i wouldnt have the choice of quitting just cause of post pain.

[Atomini]

What is the reason that test propionate has to have such a high BA level??

Is the same true for other propionate esterfied steroids?

[Rotary]

Just use a painless prop.

[RAILroad]

yea that would be nice so would injectable steroids you didnt have to inject

[legobricks]

Painless prop is a name for it and yes its out there... Let me try to find it, i cant think of it for some reason right now. Not everyone thinks its painless tho.

[legobricks]

Prop thats made with Ethyl Oleate is supposed to be less painful but as stated some users still think it is painful. I havent run prop as of yet but am excited to the ED injects.

[RAILroad]

so should i run it or what

[legobricks]

How old are you?
What's your body fat%?
What would your pct be?

Ill bump this post.

[RAILroad]

just looking for some solid knowledge

[Big]

just looking for some solid knowledge

How old are you?
What's your body fat%?
What would your pct be?

us too^

[RAILroad]

if youa re asking for the answers to those questions i already informedyou. 20yo, 14 % bf and i would use clomid and take nolva during

[legobricks]

if youa re asking for the answers to those questions i already informedyou. 20yo, 14 % bf and i would use clomid and take nolva during

would it be a good first cycle for me you think?
stats- 5'9 190lb- been lifting seriously for about 4 years...
I was thinking of running 100mg eod for about 6 weeks

No, you did not state this to us and thats why we asked. Clomid and Nolvadex are used for PCT. Nolvadex is used during cycle to combat any gyno related sides. If your diet is on track, you have all your ancilleries on hand, your are knowledgeable of the sides/risks involved then it is up to you. Most will tell you no because your only 20 years old. So Its recomended at least 21, and some people even think 25. I think youll be fine. Have you mapped out a bulking or lean bulking diet?

[RAILroad]

i have researched for sometime now so im not worried about that at all. i said i would use nolva during an clomid after for two weeks. thanks for the help... i guess im thinking about running this so we'll see... 5-6 weeks???

[Big]

i said i would use nolva during an clomid after for two weeks

where did you say that?

[legobricks]

i have researched for sometime now so im not worried about that at all. i said i would use nolva during an clomid after for two weeks. thanks for the help... i guess im thinking about running this so we'll see... 5-6 weeks???

Check out PCT in the PCT forum for a correct PCT before you go any further. Now how bout that diet?

[Big]

usually when we ask what you're going to do for pct, we mean what compounds at what dosages and when you will start in relation to your cycle, etc.
This is so we know if you have the basic knowledge base for us to recommend a cycle. Saying "clomid after" doesn't tell us much.

[Rotary]

yea that would be nice so would injectable steroids you didnt have to inject

Uh, I'm using it right now.

Thanks.

[RAILroad]

i plan on taking 100 mg of test prop every other day. so i planned on doing it monday wednesday and friday. some people say to go every day at 50 mg but i think i could just do the 100 mg every other. im thinking on just doing one tab of nolva everyday at 20 mg a day but again not sure if i should go everyday or just the days i inject. but then i planne don 5 days after my cycle to start the clomid for 2 weeks. i hope i answered everything....thanks again for helping me.

[RAILroad]

thinking 100 mg ed first week and 50 mg ed second week....what do you think should i do something different with the cycle or do a different cycle

[Njord]

thinking 100 mg ed first week and 50 mg ed second week....what do you think should i do something different with the cycle or do a different cycle

You need to stop any thoughts about a cycle. It is clear from you posts that you do not have the required knowledge. Even after being pushed in the right direction by the more experienced members here.
Go read the educational as well as the pct forums.

[RAILroad]

are you kidding me bro....ive worked out hard for 4 years and have a very clean diet. ive never even see ou on here before. hey thanks but no thanks. i appreciate the thought but any other help please. ive read plenty trust me. i wouldnt put my body thru it if i didnt think i could handle it

[RAILroad]

and what from my posts make you think im not informed...i already know what iw anna do just asking if you think its good. what did yu read that makes you think im uninformed makes no sense. please point out.

[Njord]

and what from my posts make you think im not informed...i already know what iw anna do just asking if you think its good. what did yu read that makes you think im uninformed makes no sense. please point out.

your proposed pct

[RAILroad]

what bout you arent being to specific...what do you suggest then....sounds good to me

[Njord]

I suggest you go read up in the pct forums

[RAILroad]

alright.....i would like to hear what you think....

[RAILroad]

bump

[peteroy01]

dude, seriously go read a couple of the stickies in the PCT forum. its really the most important part of the cycle. and 20mg of nolva ed is overkill imo. try 10mg ed and see how that works out.

[legobricks]

Pyramiding or fluctuating the levels thuout the cycle will create unwanted sides. Stick to a dose and keep it the same throughout the cycle.

[legobricks]

Also no need to frontload test Prop. Basically you should research more on a first cycle, ancilleries kept on hand to prevent any unwanted estrogen related side effects, and a proper PCT already on hand before you even start the cycle. WE understand you have been working out for 4 years and have some knowledge inthe gym. We are talking about knowledge in regards to AAS. Test only cycle for #1 is a good idea as it introduces you to the compound and you can adjust according to sides and know how test only effects you. With a proper diet and PCT set in place youll get some nice gains.

[RAILroad]

man i respect everything you put on a page. lots of my friends have used so hey have stories and have help put in their .02. i have read a lot about them and stuff but of course im going to be nervous about my first injection. one of my lifting buddies says that doing test prop should be in my system by at least the 3rd shot hes doing test e now and its still not in his system after 3 weeks so i understand his thinking there. im not worried about it stinging or anything. but if you have any other advice im looking forward to this. it hsould lean me out alil more just like test e and what are some sides you are talkin about. i dont think i have too much to worry bout if my diet just stays tight.

[Second2None]

i wouldnt run any nolva til gyno popped its head around and if it does, ive ran prop with no gyno issues, but that is just me
imo keep it on hand and run the prop then pct

[RAILroad]

i thought that just running nolva during would take care of that side???...i dont understand why i would wait for it to pop up and then try and take care of it cause its not easy from hat ive read and heard

[MaVreck]

i think clomid should be sufficient for this cycle as it is not going to be very suppressive.
pct as follows
day 1: 300mg
day 2-7: 100mg ed
day 8-14: 50mg ed

[RAILroad]

thats what i think too others disagree