Oral T-bol

[187Chor]

i dont find many threads about oral tbol on here.. the random one from time to time but i dont see many people using it.

is it a bad product?

from what i've read, a user doesn't suffer many side effects as if they used dbol but i notice more ppl use dbol...

i am 25 yrs old 5'8" i weigh 150lbs and wanted to try a oral tbol only cycle for 6 weeks 20mg ED.

i want to try orals for my first cycle and in a small dose because it is my first time using and i dont want to try injectables yet. id also like to see what gains can be made using as little as possible and then progress from there. id like to gain 15-20lbs in the next 6 months and keep it, and im hoping this cycle will jump start me and ill will continue to work out without gear after the cycle hoping to keep the gains.

id like peoples feedback any criticism in regards to the cycle is welcomed be it negative or positive, but i don't want to hear im small and i should try and get bigger naturally before i use. i've decided to use and want advice..

so?

[soccer#3]

do a search on tbol, u'll find endless threads discussing it

20mg is too low. start off wit at least 40mg. pyramid it but dont exceed 60mg.

if u keep a good diet and drink plenty of water u should be able to put on 10 lb but i dunno how much u'll keep.

the bad sides i experienced was tiredness and shin splints when i played soccer

[Crest]

yer man i had shin splints playing football, think it was from all the extra weight i was carrying from a test-dbol cycle

[Johny-too-small]

Id do this (and have):

1-3: 50mg/ed
4-6: 60mg/ed
pct: start day after last administration
7-8: nolva @ 20mg/ed

Ive gone up to 80+ mg/ed and I dont think thats too much for a newb at all. If you do, add 2 weeks to your cycle and bump it up to 80mg/ed weeks 7-8. Happy growing.

[Ashop]

TBOL is a great AAS. gains are similar to DBOL but dryer gains.

[magic32]

Tbol is great for high quality lbm!

I like Johny's starting you at 50-60mgs since you want to begin low, but 70-100mgs is great and 6 wks is scant for this compound. It's very mild and is better run for 10-12 like Var.

[soccer#3]

i;d follow johnnys cycle or this:

1-40mg
2-50mg
3-60mg
4-60mg
5-50mg
6-40mg

pct
7-8 20mg nolva ed

wit ur frame i wouldnt consider goin above 60mg. i also had stomach issues on tbol. when i quit it passed.

[magic32]

i;d follow johnnys cycle or this:

1-40mg
2-50mg
3-60mg
4-60mg
5-50mg
6-40mg

pct
7-8 20mg nolva ed

wit ur frame. i wouldnt consider goin above 60mg. i also had stomach issues on tbol. when i quit it passed.

Good catch Soccer, I only skimmed and missed this. At 150lbs regardless of height, there's plenty of room to build a more solid foundation. How long have you been routinely lifting and eating right?

However Soccer there's no need to pyramid gear.
Some orals cause gastro trouble so dividing them into more than the usual two dosages typically works well. If still intolerable, reduction may be in order. But Tbol is best run longer and the profile even sites a female Olympian who ran 35mgs, so in this case more is better.

The main thing 187, is that you be careful and work seriously at eating and training because without effectively exercising these components your gear won't do much.

[Trenhead]

i was thinking about tryin but dbol is way cheaper and you gain more weight yeah its alot of water but its still makes ya feel gynormous. and gor me other than the bloat there are no sides and i love the way it makes me feel when ya take it before training. i say go with dbol who wants to be tired and feeling like crap from tbol

[187Chor]

actually the place i got my tbol sells dbol for more.. so this was cheaper..

i wasnt aware it would make me tired and feel like crap.. infact i thought dbol would make me feel worse..

i only picked up 100 x 10mg so i guess for this cycle im gonna try out 20mg ed and i dont have a plan for pct but im hoping my dose is low enough that i wont have a bad comedown..

thanks to everyone for thier comments so far

[rise2gr8ness]

Ok, yes you are a wee man.

However i did a little experiment with a friend that was almost you exact height and weight. Eventhough he wasn't a body builder he had an incredible appitite for pain, and pushing himself.

We started training together for a week or two and then i gave him 1 20mg oral t per day for 15 days and he put on 8 or ten pounds that he kept. He's still not a big guy, but he didn't lose any hair, his nuts stayed healthy and it workd.

[hauss man]

i think 20 mg is a small dose, i didn't like tbol due to the fact that it killed my appetite

so i would not use it, imo there are better choices for your money

[187Chor]

rise2greatness

thanks for the encouragement

im hoping just like your "wee" friend i too can put one some muscle/weight off 20mg and keep it..

good to know he dint have the bad side effects either

[magic32]

rise2greatness

thanks for the encouragement

im hoping just like your "wee" friend i too can put one some muscle/weight off 20mg and keep it..

good to know he dint have the bad side effects either

How long have you been training and how many calories do you normally consume ED?

[reppedout1]

don't mean to hijack this thread but is there a reason people run tbol over dbol since they are very similar?,cuz in the end when u shed the water you may accumulate with the dbol wouldn't the gains then be similar?....repped

[magic32]

don't mean to hijack this thread but is there a reason people run tbol over dbol since they are very similar?
YES, YOU NEVER GET THE PRONOUNCED STEROID APPEARANCE THAT ACCOMPANIES DBOL.

cuz in the end when u shed the water you may accumulate with the dbol wouldn't the gains then be similar?....repped
THERE'S A SOME TRUTH HERE.
READING THE PROFILE SHOULD ADD THE NEEDED CLARITY.

You should read the whole thing when you get a chance but this segment addresses your specific question.

TBOL PROFILE EXCERPT: The easiest way to explain this drug is that it is a derivative of Dianabol. Though it is a derivative of our old friend Diana, it’s still quite different...remember, Equipoise is estrified Dianabol, and really has nothing in common with it, in terms of real-world-effects. Let’s examine OT in relation to D-bol for now, though. The first similarity between the two is that they have both been 17-alpha-alkylated (a carbon atom was added at the 17th position) to survive the first pass through the liver. This, of course, increases hepatoxicity (liver toxicity). OT has a much lower level of androgenic activity compared to dianabol, but a better balance/ratio of anabolic and androgenic effects. It has a rating of a 0 (according to the Vida reference) for androgenic properties and a 53 for anabolic properties based on a score of 100 each for testosterone. This promotes more of a "hard" look, of what competition bodybuilders often call “quality” muscle. You do not get the same "puffy" look as you would on d-bol, and many people have thus compared the results they’ve gotten from OT to Anavar. Actually, though, this stuff is simply dianabol with a 4-chloro alteration, the same alteration found in Clostebol.

[reppedout1]

^^^^^thank you magic that def helped bro!!!.....repped

[187Chor]

magic 32

i have been training for a few years on and off every year i dont have a routine at the moment. every year i will work out for a couple months, see some nice gains and then stop.. and of course when i stop i lose my gains as the months go by. so this time around i will probably work out a couple months and gain more than i usually would.. and after that im hoping i will still work out so i keep my gains.. if i dont keep up the workout routine then ill probably shed the weight and muscle in a few months and be back to square one.. this is just a little experiment..
my diet is also very random but i know when i work out i am more strict about it. my body tone is generally lean because all year round my diet usually consists on mostly carbs and protein.. i eat alot of grains and chicken every day, and while workning out ill just increase how much ill eat.
for the past few years my weight has been pretty consistent around 145lbs, and in the last year i worked out less than the previous years and for the first time ive put on a little extra fat around the belly and i just weighd myself im at 147lbs.
im trying to keep this quite simple no fancy stack of gear no crazy work out no strict diet.
it might not be the best way to go about doing a cycle but like i said its an expiriment.
ill let everyone know the progression of the cycle as it is made.

[Seattle Junk]

Use the search feature, it's fantastic. Jeeez, there must be 10,000+ threads on tbol.

[infojluna]

Where my I buy some Tbol.
Please email me with the info
[email protected]

Thankyou so much.
Jesse

[auslifta]

Where my I buy some Tbol.
Please email me with the info
[email protected]

Thankyou so much.
Jesse

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=323474

[Seattle Junk]

Where my I buy some Tbol.
Please email me with the info
[email protected]

Thankyou so much.
Jesse

No......

[187Chor]

so i started the cycle on dec 30th and its been 6 days now of 20mg/day...
the very first day i was farting alot..
the 2nd day the farts subsided and have not come back since.. by the 2nd day i started feeling moody. im not sure if i can attribute that to my new years eve plans going down the toilet or the gear but i know i was in a crap mood.. i generally am a short fuse kinda guy and maybe using has put me in a mind frame to justify my general angriness, not sure...
by the 2nd day i also noticed a loss of libido...
by day 5 i have started to notice im feeling a bit more tired.. i usually wake up early and go to the gym but yesterday and today (day 6) i slept in til 3pm.. but hey, i can get it up again
when im working out im not sure if i feel any strength gains yet different than if i would normally have felt after working out on the regular for 2 weeks straight..
my appetite has generally stayed the same since the beginning of the cycle..

i know i was advised to use a higher dosage to see any results or feel any effects, but how long does one usually feel the positive effects by?

[Johny-too-small]

so i started the cycle on dec 30th and its been 6 days now of 20mg/day...
the very first day i was farting alot..
the 2nd day the farts subsided and have not come back since.. by the 2nd day i started feeling moody. im not sure if i can attribute that to my new years eve plans going down the toilet or the gear but i know i was in a crap mood.. i generally am a short fuse kinda guy and maybe using has put me in a mind frame to justify my general angriness, not sure...
by the 2nd day i also noticed a loss of libido...
by day 5 i have started to notice im feeling a bit more tired.. i usually wake up early and go to the gym but yesterday and today (day 6) i slept in til 3pm.. but hey, i can get it up again
when im working out im not sure if i feel any strength gains yet different than if i would normally have felt after working out on the regular for 2 weeks straight..
my appetite has generally stayed the same since the beginning of the cycle..

i know i was advised to use a higher dosage to see any results or feel any effects, but how long does one usually feel the positive effects by?

lol...
Dude, I can say with 100% certainty that this is all in your head, all of it.

You should stay natty because @ 20 mg/ed, its a waste and it wont do jack. It takes about 3 weeks to build up enough in your blood to start seeing gains even at the dose of 50 mg/ed.

[187Chor]

johny too small

i guess the first time u try something, any abnormal feeling u have u just relate it to the gear, so if it is all in my head, all i can say is THANK GOD...

i will continue the cycle til the end simply to make myself more comfortable with upping the dose the next time around.. and i guess i have another 2 weeks to go ( u said 3 weeks) to see IF ANY results are felt..

[Crest]

im running oral t soon, straight in at 60mg though, i read somewhere 10-20mg is a womans dose?

[TROD17]

How is the cycle going 187chor?

[KJSolid]

I dont understand why you came to the board and asked for advice as you did not heed any of it. Everyone told you to up the dosage, you kept it at 20mgs. Many asked what your pct is, I bet you don't have any. In my opinion, you weigh 145 pounds and you are popping tbol. That is probably the biggest meal you had all day. Eat and train then you can cycle. You said that you havent lifted consistantly ever, so maybe try that. Shit some of these guys have legs that weigh more than 150lbs. Now I am all fired up, might as well go to the gym.

[187Chor]

KJSOLID yes i chose not to take the advice to use a higher dose out of my own comfortability. it might seem futile to you but the same way 20mg might not do much to help me, do you think it will do much to hurt me? i doubt it. and next time around i will feel more comfortable upping the dose.
how stupid would anyone be to try something they are not comfortable with? i see many people on here who are not even comfortable injecting, maybe in time it changes but i dont see it as a reason to knock a guy.
i have increased my dietary intake but i can also only do that incrementally, try making any person double or triple what they eat everyday, if i force myself to eat more i will just end up stretching my stomach lining!!
though i did not train much in the past i do it regularly now, i am at the gym 4-5 times a week and if i dont go to the gym it's only because i am too sore.. and ur correct i dont have a PCT planned, i figured with oral T its effects were so mild, and the dose was that small that i would not need it. i would also glady feel any negative effects just to know what i need to change the next time around.. that is why this is a trial run for me

TROD 17 guess its going ok 2 weeks have gone by, ive comfortably increased the weights on all the excersizes i do. and my current weight is 152lbs. not sure how much of that could be water, but hey i got 4 more weeks to go ill keep posting..

[Fixr]

keep posting 187. even if you didnt follow all of the advice given(and much of it is just personal opinion) at least you chose to err on the side of caution. thats way better than the first timers who want to inject 1000mg of test and gain 50 pounds for their first cycle. good luck bro.

[187Chor]

im in the 4rth week now

i notice i get drowsy everyday and i have a decrease in appetite, but i still try and force myself to eat enough.
the drowsiness turned into lazyness and i dint work out for 3 days but i went today and feel good.
i still weigh a bit over 150.

meh, no interesting updates.....
ill keep everyone posted....

[187Chor]

for the past couple days my shins have started to hurt
the pain is easily bareable but still noticable... the feeling jus makes me want to do a leg workout, which when i did today made it feel better

has anyone had a hairloss problem with oral t? in the past couple weeks i feel as if my hair is thinning.. today i went for a haircut and my barber confirmed that it looked like my hair had thinned out on the back especially, and for a guy who i see every month for the past 20 years saying it looks thin it made me worry!
he of course doesnt know im using anything and said hey dont worry look atme im bald and i had less hair than u at ur age so theres a first time for everything and its just starting for u..

[badER]

lol what dosage are you running it at?

[187Chor]

20mg ed