Please help me in the right path

[ricosuave_143]

Hey everyone
I just need a little help on whioch way to turn

I am 5'11 190pounds 22% bodyfat and have access to Anavar and Winne tabs as well

I need to cut down all my body fat and tighten and acheive that ripped hard look.
I am excercising regularly 4-5 week with cardio 3-4week as well. My goal is to look like brad pitt in Troy by june or July

A. is this possible
B. How do i get there
C. Whichever one i take do ineed to taKE anything after the cycle, Like novadex or anything not too sure.

Please help with the right choice

[IntenseAthlete]

how old are you?

[prima07]

1. very possible
2. diet and knowlege "start reading"
3. as for the nolvedex, just keep some letro on hand just in case. var doesnt aromatize.
here is a my thoughts on a cut cycle:

Test Prop: 100MG/ED WK 1-12
Tren Ace: 75MG/ED WK 1-8
Winstrol: 50MG/ED WK 6-12

[longhorn814]

the most important question is what does your diet look like? You obviously want to cut so you need to figure out how many cals you eat a day and how many come from protein/fat/carbs....steroids arent gonna do jack for ya if you dont have a good diet..remember to cut body fat you need to eat less calories a day than you burn..

[peteroy01]

the tren might be a little much for a 1st timer. i would go with something simple like:
Prop-75mg/ed wk1-12(or go with 500mg Test E ew for less injections)
80-100mcg of T3 ed
Winny-50mg/ed wk6-12 w/prop or wk 6-14 w/test E

[IntenseAthlete]

hey dumbass's dude says he has acess to var or winy tabs.Not what is your favorite cutter

[peteroy01]

well you can calm down with that shitty attitude. i was giving advice on what would be more beneficial for him and his goals. maybe he could look for something else or put his cycle off until he could get something else.

[Njord]

1. very possible
2. diet and knowlege "start reading"
3. as for the nolvedex, just keep some letro on hand just in case. var doesnt aromatize.
here is a my thoughts on a cut cycle:

Test Prop: 100MG/ED WK 1-12
Tren Ace: 75MG/ED WK 1-8
Winstrol: 50MG/ED WK 6-12

OK, you have just been added to the list of people who give ignorant advice. One of the stupidest responses to a questions in a long time. Keep some letro on hand for anavar.WTF!
For the original poster, proper diet and proper cardio/exercise will go a long way towards achieving your goal. Forget about the steroids for now.

[IntenseAthlete]

var is far better for cutting then prop.Test e? Boating and cutting go together?Sorry for the dumbass comment but it bothers me when people negate the original question.

[IntenseAthlete]

OK, you have just been added to the list of people who give ignorant advice. One of the stupidest responses to a questions in a long time. Keep some letro on hand for anavar.WTF!
For the original poster, proper diet and proper cardio/exercise will go a long way towards achieving your goal. Forget about the steroids for now.

100% agreed letro/var lol.Thats why I wanted to know posters age before rambling on cycle advice

[peteroy01]

why cant you cut with Test E. he said he wants to be "cut" by June or July. and i would think that 500mg Test E would keep him in a more anabolic state then taking the avg dose of var during his cutting diet(hopefully).

[Schmidty]

1. very possible
2. diet and knowlege "start reading"
3. as for the nolvedex, just keep some letro on hand just in case. var doesnt aromatize.here is a my thoughts on a cut cycle:

Test Prop: 100MG/ED WK 1-12
Tren Ace: 75MG/ED WK 1-8
Winstrol: 50MG/ED WK 6-12

Var and winny dont aromatise. As4the cycle...I personaly think its a lil2hard core for a first cycle. Not a bd cutting cycle by antmeans, just a lil2advanced.

[IntenseAthlete]

its like taking dbol to cut, why would you take a long estered bloating, bulking drug.It just doesnt make sense.Prop I would agree with but only to keep you from going catabolic in calorie cutting eviroment.

[Schmidty]

If ur dead set on using somethin, use some clen. Clen is fvckn amazing if u use it the rite way and train n diet 100% It wont let u down.

[Njord]

its like taking dbol to cut, why would you take a long estered bloating, bulking drug.It just doesnt make sense.Prop I would agree with but only to keep you from going catabolic in calorie cutting eviroment.

I don't personally buy into the long estered bloating thing. As a matter of fact I have never bloated on any test, and I have ran Prop, Phenylprop, Enthanate and Sust.
IMO, cutting comes down to diet and cardio.

[Schmidty]

its like taking dbol to cut, why would you take a long estered bloating, bulking drug.It just doesnt makes sense.Prop I would agree with but only to keep you from going catabolic in calorie cutting eviroment.

I have seen people cut with dbol and a long ester "bulking" drug. It can be done, u just have to know how ur body reacts2drugs. one of my local gym, rat buddies was on dbol till a week after his BB comp. He took 2nd n state last year. Now, im not sayn its easy, n i really dont know how the fvck he did it but he did. I know they were dbol2cause we got our gear from the same dude n I was bloated as all hell.

[IntenseAthlete]

If ur dead set on using somethin, use some clen. Clen is fvckn amazing if u use it the rite way and train n diet 100% It wont let u down.

just beware the sides can be harsh if you sensitive to uppers!like not sleeping!

[peteroy01]

its like taking dbol to cut, why would you take a long estered bloating, bulking drug.It just doesnt make sense.Prop I would agree with but only to keep you from going catabolic in calorie cutting eviroment.

it seems hes looking for long term effects. hes not running a cutting cycle for a comp. and bloating depends a lot on diet imo. and with those selected drugs hes not going to see a whole hell of a lot with 22%bf. imo he needs something that will keep him in an anabolic state and 5lb of "bloat" isnt bad cause it will just fall off during PCT which should be well before June or July.

[IntenseAthlete]

I don't personally buy into the long estered bloating thing. As a matter of fact I have never bloated on any test, and I have ran Prop, Phenylprop, Enthanate and Sust.
IMO, cutting comes down to diet and cardio.

you are lucky you dont bloat, and I agree to a point.It is hard to stay motivated when you carry around alot of water and dont look cut.

[Kale]

I don't personally buy into the long estered bloating thing. As a matter of fact I have never bloated on any test, and I have ran Prop, Phenylprop, Enthanate and Sust.
IMO, cutting comes down to diet and cardio.

BINGO !!!!!!

[Schmidty]

[QUOTE=IntenseAthlete;3814858]just beware the sides can be harsh if you sensitive to uppers!like not sleeping![/QUOTE]
Thats why im awake now

[IntenseAthlete]

it seems hes looking for long term effects. hes not running a cutting cycle for a comp. and bloating depends a lot on diet imo. and with those selected drugs hes not going to see a whole hell of a lot with 22%bf. imo he needs something that will keep him in an anabolic state and 5lb of "bloat" isnt bad cause it will just fall off during PCT which should be well before June or July.

If hes lookin for long term then var or prop are the best.Mainly var,Var is like Vegas what happens on var stays on after var.Ok, the saying is not quite the same.

So skip the bloat, do the var 50-75 mgs per day with krealkalyn for 12 weeks and pct nolva 20mgs ed for 3 weeks.Also as stated by everyone above if your diet and training are not spot on dont waste your money.
Good luck Js

[peteroy01]

test gains should stay as well if he has a decent PCT. agreed on the diet. so we are running in circles now so im calling it a night.

[IntenseAthlete]

nite petey, me too

[peteroy01]

good night John Boy(The Waltons, im really white).

[Schmidty]

If hes lookin for long term then var or prop are the best.Mainly var,Var is like Vegas what happens on var stays on after var.Ok, the saying is not quite the same.

So skip the bloat, do the var 50-75 mgs per day with krealkalyn for 12 weeks and pct nolva 20mgs ed for 3 weeks.Also as stated by everyone above if your diet and training are not spot on dont waste your money.
Good luck Js

VAR4 12 weeks????? Why the hell????? U just lost ur typeing rights4the week.

[Njord]

Guys, he's at 22% BF, why are you arguing var vs test. He doesn't need either one.

[IntenseAthlete]

why?

[peteroy01]

why?(damit im not tired)

[IntenseAthlete]

VAR4 12 weeks????? Why the hell????? U just lost ur typeing rights4the week.

no why to this?Many people run var for 10-12 weeks for maxium cutting purposes.

[IntenseAthlete]

Guys, he's at 22% BF, why are you arguing var vs test. He doesn't need either one.

at this point we all arguing just to argue.

[Schmidty]

at this point we all arguing just to argue.

Its cause nobody else n the world is awake2talk2. Infact i think steroids are stupid

[Njord]

at this point we all arguing just to argue.

No, no, no we are not. I'm saying the guys needs to focus on his cardio and diet and forget about steroids for now. You are telling him to do a 12 week cycle of Anavar, Not the same at all. Completely different.
BTW, this is the first time I have ever heard of a 12 week anavar cycle.

[Schmidty]

Just like all of you...Im sorry, i didnt mean that. Im just whoreing and ADMIN/Hittler is gona get mad at me again.

[Schmidty]

No, no, no we are not. I'm saying the guys needs to focus on his cardio and diet and forget about steroids for now. You are telling him to do a 12 week cycle of Anavar, Not the same at all. Completely different.
BTW, this is the first time I have ever heard of a 12 week anavar cycle.

Same here? Who the fvck runs var4 12wks????? WHY?????

[IntenseAthlete]

Most of the people that have good results that I know.It really starts to get good about 4 weeks in.So then you run 4 more weeks and quit when you making the best progress?Those extra 4 weeks is where the real magic happens.If you take care of yourelf your liver values will not be anymore effected then the normal 8 weeks

[Schmidty]

Most of the people that have good results that I know.It really starts to get good about 4 weeks in.So then you run 4 more weeks and quit when you making the best progress?Those extra 4 weeks is where the real magic happens.If you take care of yourelf your liver values will not be anymore effected then the normal 8 weeks

I had my buddy run it 4 8 weeks and after 6wks it didnt do anything.

[IntenseAthlete]

^^^^^^^^underdosed crap
IMO

[Schmidty]

^^^^^^^^underdosed crap
IMO

Deff not. It was a HUGE an very well known UGL. I n all my other gym rat friends used ther gear plenty of times and never had any probs.

[KJSolid]

var is far better for cutting then prop.Test e? Boating and cutting go together?Sorry for the dumbass comment but it bothers me when people negate the original question.

Boating and cutting go together. Time to get a new prop for my boat cause its time to start cutting. Just kidding I know you meant bloating.