Stacking

[lagnaf]

Combining Deca and D-Bol... good or bad?

[HURRICANE3500]

test in every cylce IMO

[PT]

i agree, you throw some test in with deca and d-bol to jumpstart it you have a great cycle. im not telling you to do this without knowing how many cycles you have done but that is a great stack. my theory is that every cycle, especially one with deca needs test

[lagnaf]

So you're saying that when one starts a cycle of Deca and D-Bol go ahead and include a dose of Test at the beginning of the cycle?

[Big]

So you're saying that when one starts a cycle of Deca and D-Bol go ahead and include a dose of Test at the beginning of the cycle?

Nope, that's not what we are saying. Test should be the base of any cycle for the duration of the cycle.
What are your stats, cycle experience, and planned pct?

[djcj2002]

I hope you weren't thinking of just doing dbol for a kickstart, then deca only. Like Big said, test is the base - build your cycle around that. If you were going to do deca only, use the search on here and search for "deca only cycle". You'll prob change your mind.

[lagnaf]

Nope, that's not what we are saying. Test should be the base of any cycle for the duration of the cycle.
What are your stats, cycle experience, and planned pct?

I'm quite unintelligent at this. I've used test only and deca only. I did this over the course of a year. Gained 25 pounds and maintained it over the year. I'm naturally about 165 and with "help" 190. I'm still trying to learn...

Don't know much about cycles or what to combine with what.

[10nispro]

So if you had to choose 165 or 190, which are you now? age hgt bf% also helps us.

[10nispro]

We aren't flaming you, we are all here to learn and teach when possible.

[Njord]

I'm also a little confused on the weight. What do you mean by "naturally" and with "help". If you are dropping 25 when coming off cycle, you are doing something seriously wrong.

[lagnaf]

I'm right now at 170... lost my supply for quite a while. Also stopped working out... body is tired due to my schedule. <p>

I'm 38 years old wei***ng in at 170 with 12 to 14 percent bf. I'm also 5'8" tall. I would like to get back to 190 or even 200. My job motivates me to stay in shape and strong... thus my lifestyle of excersize and proper diet. Introducing "help" into my life came about a year ago and the benefits are obviously preferred.

[10nispro]

How long ago were the last cycles? If I read correctly, 2 prior cycles(one cmpd each) kept 25 lbs over a year and now have dropped most of that and haven't worked out for some time. Oh, and you bf% stayed pretty good. You need to get back on a solid routine of working out and eating unitl you can't gain any more then, use one cmpd(test cycle and good pct) and go from there.

[lagnaf]

How long ago were the last cycles? If I read correctly, 2 prior cycles(one cmpd each) kept 25 lbs over a year and now have dropped most of that and haven't worked out for some time. Oh, and you bf% stayed pretty good. You need to get back on a solid routine of working out and eating unitl you can't gain any more then, use one cmpd(test cycle and good pct) and go from there.

Actually I've started my routine again.. sans help. I believe I have found another supply so soon I'll start at it again. I would however hope to go at it more educatedly than before. I've been reading a lot on these forums and most of it is admittedly over my head. My hookup was not as educated as anyone here that's for sure.

[roidboyjnr]

i was given alot of bogus info from mates that know jack as well, i just keep asking and reading in here for advice i need ...

good luck champ and keep us posted

[lagnaf]

I appreciate the positive comments and feedback. Thanks.

[lagnaf]

How long ago were the last cycles? If I read correctly, 2 prior cycles(one cmpd each) kept 25 lbs over a year and now have dropped most of that and haven't worked out for some time. Oh, and you bf% stayed pretty good. You need to get back on a solid routine of working out and eating unitl you can't gain any more then, use one cmpd(test cycle and good pct) and go from there.

I didn't cycle. I was continuous. I did break it for a month at about the 6 month mark.

[djcj2002]

Continuous? Six months straight? Then 1 month break. How long after break? I bet you were totally shut down, bro. Did you do any pct?

[lagnaf]

Continuous? Six months straight? Then 1 month break. How long after break? I bet you were totally shut down, bro. Did you do any pct?

Went another 6 months. What is pct?

[lagnaf]

Continuous? Six months straight? Then 1 month break. How long after break? I bet you were totally shut down, bro. Did you do any pct?

By shut down do you mean no gains?

[Big]

Went another 6 months. What is pct?

ouch.
pct = post cycle therapy. look it up and don't do anything else till you have a full understanding of it, it's as important as the cycle itself in my opinion.

[Big]

By shut down do you mean no gains?

no, when you inject steroids you "shut down" your natural testosterone production, you use pct to restore it.

[djcj2002]

Bro, you absolutely HAVE to know what pct is if you are going to use aas. Please, for your sake, read up. There's tons of info on here about that. You could seriously damage yourself permanently if you go into this stuff blindly. I like the juice, but I don't want to HAVE to be on HRT for the rest of my life.

[lagnaf]

So... go on a cycle and end it and go on pct. Correct?

[djcj2002]

Yes. Unless you have other instructions from and endo.

[lagnaf]

How long is a typical cycle?

[djcj2002]

Depends on what one is running. Typical ~ 12 weeks.

[lagnaf]

12 weeks on and 12 weeks off?

[Njord]

You're messing with us right?

[djcj2002]

People are different. Some say time on + pct = time off. Bro, you should browse some of the forums. Learn about pct. Uses the search feature at the top of this page. There is a wealth of knowledge in here.

[djcj2002]

You're messing with us right?

I'm starting to think so too.

[lagnaf]

I know this seems odd... but I don't know the first thing about any of this. I've been browsing the forums and haven't found specific answers to specific questions yet. I'm absolutely befuddled. I'm not trying to mess with anyone or waste anyone's time.

[djcj2002]

One place to start is to read all the links testosterone info links on the home page. Will be time well spent. Best thing I ever did.

[lagnaf]

I do appreciate the knowledge.