Second cycle help

[allout13]

Hey guys,

I completed my first cycle of test e 500mg/wk 10 weeks about 13 weeks ago. I followed that up with a 4 week nolvadex, clomid pct.

Looking to start a second cycle in a month or so and just looking for some information. I am in college so there is a chance i will be tested.. but im willing to take that. I play football and was thinking about the same cycle (test e 500mg/wk) but extending it to 16 weeks. 10 wks preseason and taking it 6 weeks into the season. I was also thinking about adding a dbol kickstart at 20mg/wk for the first 4.

Any thoughts/comments on this?
feel free to critique

[nowdenlid]

goals and stats please bro

[allout13]

20
second cycle
been lifting for as long as i can remember but hardcore since 17
just trying to gain strength and a little mass..

[john vega]

imo,since ur not givin much stats to work with here..in general from what u had used as a first cycle...id wait about 2 months of sum heavy training and quality nutrition and supplementation and than jump into thye same cycle with the addition of deca for 10 weeks at 400 mgs weekly and enanthate for 12 at the same dosage..500mgs weekly.
u cud even compliment it wud 30 mgs of dbol daily for 4 weekx for a jump start since the deca and enanthate take a while to kick in...but i think the deca being incoporated alone will host worlds of wondersw for you since u have virgin like receptors to it. just dont take nolva with it as part of ur pct. take arimidex instead to minimize bloat and prevent estrogen build up.
lotz a luk 2

[Phate]

im just throwing this out there, but have you thought about using test suspension, the only reason i ask is that 1) since it has no ester you get the full mg of free test that you inject and 2) it's detention time is about 1 day depending on when you last injected so if your told you will need to show up for a test the next day and you stop your injections you have a chance of being tested clean
downsides are you have to inject ed or 2x a day and it's a painful shot so you should cut it with b12

[allout13]

im not worried so much about being caught. i go to a pretty small school and our football program doesnt exactly attract that much attention. but i would rather stick to test e. i know what john was saying but i think im gonna save deca for my next cycle

[Phate]

then what you have is a good idea IMO
1-14or16 Test Enth
1-4 Dbol 20mg/day

just make sure you use something to help your liver out like liv52 or equilvalent, especially since you'll be training in the gym and for football which could cause you to get dehydrated if your not careful

one thing though, have you considered prop, i'm just asking because of the difference in the amount of actualy test you get from prop vs. enth (83.72 vs. 69.90 per 100mg) which in your cycle would be an extra 69.1mg per week and an extra 1105.6mg over your cycle

[allout13]

yea i considered it. actually i really considered it and i had it narrowed down to enanthate or prop, but ive already used enanthate and got some acne but the sides were pretty mild so i know what im getting into if i use that. i was thinking of saving prop and deca for my 3rd cycle

[Phate]

k, then IMO you look fine
1-14or16 test enth 500mg/wk (250mg monday morning_250mg thurday evening)
1-4 dbol 20mg/ed (break it up throughout the day like 10mg when you wake up, 5mg midday, and 5 a couple hours before you go to sleep to keep blood levels stable)
arimidex .25mg eod as needed for sides

what's your pct

[AandF6969]

Whats your height/weight/bf%?

[AandF6969]

Whats your height/weight/bf%?

[allout13]

5'11
190
not sure on the bf