Newbie starting first cycle.. opinions

[colts2407]

hey guys im new here and yes i read all the newbie forums.. but when i was reading the cycle forum it says that with d-bol you should take 40mg a day?? isnt that a bit much?
im starting my first d-bol cycle on monday, im 6'1 205 lbs.. what cycle should i start with? im thinking starting at 30mg a day
also include what anti-est. i should take or anything of the sorts
thanks in advance!

[Bigmax]

stats bro???

[legobricks]

Normally dbol cycles are looked down upon for first cycles due to the extreme water weight carry and loss of gains at the end not to mention the emotional sides that are followed by it. Why not injectable? How old are you, what is your BF%?

[colts2407]

im 25.. and not injectable for 2 reasons... one because i cant find it lol... and two because i literally HATE needles... just cant handle them
i would say im aroun 12%
and thats also what im asking.. what should i take with this cycle to help keep gains and reduse water retention

[legobricks]

Honestly bro, id reconsider your decision of the dbol only. A simple test enanthate cycle will bring FAR better results and i think you would like the outcome. Needles are a fear of mostly everyone who start off and most will tell you that if your not ready for needles then your not ready for steroids. It holds true to a certain extent due to the quality of muscle gained. Once again, research a bit more about AAS. Test enanthate is usually jsut as easy to obtain as dbol is due it being used as a base hormone for cycles.

[colts2407]

the only things right now that are available to me are..
**EDIT**

-Winni(30ml)

Danabol 10mg (D-bol)


this is my only good source and cant source check on here.. sooo yeah lol

[xavier_888888]

Read the rules bro cant post source!

[mkrulic]

25 is young. if it were me Id get the sust and do 2 shots per week

[colts2407]

Read the rules bro cant post source!

i didnt post a sourse i posted what i can get!

[mkrulic]

do you kjnow that sust is test?

[colts2407]

if i did take the dbol by itself tho how effective would it be?

[colts2407]

yeah i have a PCT
should i take something such as clen with the dbol?

[Yaroslav]

D-bol by itself can give you amazing results. As far as keeping the gains it gets really tricky, but even with no pct you can retain atleast 20-30% . For the first time user 40 mg/day might be quite estrogenic (water retention, fat gain) so a good AI like arimidex or aromasin is advised. Run it for no longer then 5-6 weeks. BTW, after your d-bol cycle i can bet you will be loving roids and needles will come next!! At least that was in my case.

[mkrulic]

if i did take the dbol by itself tho how effective would it be?

Some people have impotence probs from oral only cycles. what are your stats and goals

[colts2407]

about 6`0- 6`1
205 lbs
33 waist
around 15" arms FLEXED
body fat around 13%
bench 285
squat 350

main goal is to just get as big as humanly possible for summer vacations! lol.. obviously i want to gain alot of strength too.. but im focused more on muscle gain
im going for the thick but also ripped look.. (but arent we all i know!) lol..

[mkrulic]

would not reccomend an oral only cycle. and I wouldnt recommend a cycle till you get your diet and routine together.

[boss4romdabay]

i would go with test E bro. why are you scared of needles?

[briansmith]

ok I was thinking about doing Test Propionate, or Sustanon 250, and I was thinking 1 cc every 3 days for prop and go up to 3cc and go back down to 1cc at the end of a cycle. and 2cc a week of sus a week. but the peroblem is im only 19 and 165 lb at %8 body fat. I just want something to help me gain I cant gain worth of s*it. any help?

[colts2407]

i would go with test E bro. why are you scared of needles?

well honestly i would go with that but i cant find it anywhere.. and im not scared of needles but just for some reason they make me pass out..

[Phate]

i have some friends with that same problem, you could try getting some injectable b12 and shooting 1000mcg every 3-4 days with a 25g pin to get over your fear, try drinking some fruit juice or eatting something with sugar a couple minutes before injecting, it helps them not to get lightheaded when they pin

[ottomaddox]

Start your own thread instead of hi-jacking someone elses. By the way you are too young to be using steroids. Be smart, educate before you medicate.

ok I was thinking about doing Test Propionate, or Sustanon 250, and I was thinking 1 cc every 3 days for prop and go up to 3cc and go back down to 1cc at the end of a cycle. and 2cc a week of sus a week. but the peroblem is im only 19 and 165 lb at %8 body fat. I just want something to help me gain I cant gain worth of s*it. any help?

[Andro9]

well if your afraid of needles i would pick a new hobby..j/k i have seen sublingual test prop and test suspension tabs

[longhorn814]

ok I was thinking about doing Test Propionate, or Sustanon 250, and I was thinking 1 cc every 3 days for prop and go up to 3cc and go back down to 1cc at the end of a cycle. and 2cc a week of sus a week. but the peroblem is im only 19 and 165 lb at %8 body fat. I just want something to help me gain I cant gain worth of s*it. any help?

start your own thread bro, but honestly youre too young and too small for AAS..at your age, you should work on your diet as its the most important part..if youre diet sucks, you wont get shit from steroids

[Phate]

are you sure they're real, neway, that would be hell on your liver wouldnt it, running a test and dbol all oral cycle, not a good idea IMO but thats just me

[Andro9]

are you sure they're real, neway, that would be hell on your liver wouldnt it, running a test and dbol all oral cycle, not a good idea IMO but thats just me

i am absolutly sure they are real but costly and yes to the liver thing but you be fine if you only did test which you should for your first cycle

[Phate]

interesting, making new stuff everyday i guess, either way, he's gonna have to get over his fear of needles as most of the people here have, it's just a matter of how much he wants to use AS vs. how afraid he is of the pinning, i put my money on AS eventually

[Andro9]

interesting, making new stuff everyday i guess, either way, he's gonna have to get over his fear of needles as most of the people here have, it's just a matter of how much he wants to use AS vs. how afraid he is of the pinning, i put my money on AS eventually

agreed

[colts2407]

you all are 100% right
im going to have to get over my fear of needles and i will trust me!
i just want to run this cycle of dbol first to see how i respond to AAS.. especially a strong one
so i need help with what to take with it to keep gains, and when and how much to take
but after this cycle and the PCT i plan to run test if i can get my hands on it.. and maybe dbol with it or prolly tren to cut
but i need help with this dbol cycle! im starting monday! even though you guys dont reccomend it by itself, if my diet is in check will i get pretty big by summer.. thats my goal!

[colts2407]

anyone??

[colts2407]

just got my gear... will you guys go to the pic forum and see if im good to go?

[AandF6969]

You should post your diet in the diet forum for critique

[colts2407]

bump
still need opinions
im thinking of adding clen with the dbol
opinions on that?

[mkrulic]

bump
still need opinions
im thinking of adding clen with the dbol
opinions on that?

do you want good advice or people telling you what you want to hear? All the advice needed was given. check legobricks and all the posts about diet. its all right there.

[colts2407]

okay so i have decided that im going to run a cycle of my dbol and NOLVA starting monday! starting at 30mg dbol a day.. how much nolva should i run with that???