Anadrol/Winny

[JT8561]

Didn't want to run anything crazy this cycle, Just looking to cut up and increase my strength and this is what I have available atm, and I chose not to run deca now just cause I don't wanna put that much size on.

My stats are

24
185
14%BF 5'9"

[Big]

poor cycle.
what's your cycle history?

[JT8561]

Ya, I know it does suck, the only thing I've done was just a 4 week run of Anadrol I've never injected before I also tried anavar at one point. How about maybe T-bol + winny? for 8 weeks or so? Trying to get my strength up there without a huge noticable size gain just cause I can't right now. Maybe even some test and winny+clen?

[Big]

To be honest, it sounds like you need to do a LOT of research. search "beginner cycles" among other things, and read the educational posts as well.

[Elexecution]

Test and winny ... do you have a problem with injecting or something?

[JT8561]

Ya just never done it Not to be a bitch just not a fan of needles I should just jump into it tho huh? If thats the case I should just due a cycle of Test E + winny.

[Elexecution]

Test Prop and winny

[Big]

I would go with test e or test c for a first, but that's just me. If he has an aversion to needles I can't see him pinning ed or eod. I like just one compound for a first also, so I'd skip the winny. Just my 2 cents.

[JT8561]

Ya prop sounds nice but for my first time injecting ED is alot. How about something like this

1 - 4 Anadrol Just cause I have 4 weeks of it left.
1 - 10 Test E 250mg 2x wk
5 - 10 Winny

But I would really like this cycle to be some kid of a cutting cycle thats why I'd like to add in winny But is it possible I can start taking winny within the first 4 weeks or should I add it in maybe 5-8 or something?

[Elexecution]

yeah i agree Test E only would be the best bet, he seemed set on doing Winny though... it's up to him, Test E only would be my recommendation but prop would go better with his goals of cutting without too much size...

[Elexecution]

Ya prop sounds nice but for my first time injecting ED is alot. How about something like this

1 - 4 Anadrol Just cause I have 4 weeks of it left.
1 - 10 Test E 250mg 2x wk


But I would really like this cycle to be some kid of a cutting cycle thats why I'd like to add in winny But is it possible I can start taking winny within the first 4 weeks or should I add it in maybe 5-8 or something?

That cycle is going to put a good deal of size on you. If you're going to add in Winny it would logically be in the last 4 weeks

[Big]

yeah i agree Test E only would be the best bet, he seemed set on doing Winny though... it's up to him, Test E only would be my recommendation but prop would go better with his goals of cutting without too much size...

I agree, I love prop, but then I like poking myself.

[JT8561]

How about dropping it down two weeks something like this.

1 - 4 Anadrol
1 - 8 Test E 500mg wk
5 - 8 Winny


Ya I guess it would put alot of size on im already 185.

[Big]

How about test e only 500mg/week 1-12.

[JT8561]

Thats an option too I just wanted a little bit a shorter cycle. What other options do I have?

[JT8561]

Do you think if I ran that cycle I would hold alot of water if I ran Test E and Winny?

[KZRSOIZE]

with them orals youve taken i would suggest some liver detox.....