lean bulker critique and options

[SNUKA]

My goals are to gain mass while not gaining too much fat. My diet will be pretty clean, just eating more quantities of the foods with a cheat day hear or there. I pretty much have the diet on target for bulking cycles.

I already have the Sustanon, NPP and Prop. I can't make up my mind if I want to run some anavar or primo with it. If i were to run anavar it would be for 8 weeks at 80mg/day and if I ran the primo it would be 100mg/day for 7weeks. These would both be homebrewed. The primo would be acetate injectable by the way. The var would be an oral suspension.

Stats
23yo
5'8''
208
bf% around 13 I am still cutting though. most likely 11% or under before I start the bulker.
3 previous cycles using winny, eq, prop, tbol and methyl test
serious training for the past 3 or 4 years.

Weeks 1-8 Sustanon 125mg/eod, but the first week of shots will be 250mg/eod. Just to get things going quicker
Weeks 1-8 NPP 125mg/eod
Weeks 9-11 Test Prop 50mg/ed
The above is set in stone already, but if I were to run either the var or the primo it would be like this
Weeks 4-11 Anavar 80mg/ed
Weeks 5-11 Primo acetate inject 100mg/ed
Weeks 1-11 Arimidex .25mg/ed
PCT would be the Anthony Roberts protocol, but I will be running the HCG at 500iu eod or e3d. I think 500iu a day is overkill.

Do you think this would be a waste to add the var or the primo? I haven't had any experience with either compound. I never ran NPP either, but I figured the var or primo wouldn't give me any sides to worry about. I would be using them for a hardening effect, as well as mild strength and mass gains. I really think it would complete my cycle I would have test, 19nor and a dht. Let me hear your input on this.

[one8nine]

looks good- i would normally recomend a short ester injectable over an oral but i heard primo ace is KILLER pain

why not do prop every day instead of sust?
what makes you choose npp over tren a?
if you are not going to use it correctly (every day) i say replace the npp with deca and do that eod. but if you follow my advice on prop from the start you might as well do the npp every day too

switch arimidex for letro. arimidex helps with estro from test but letro helps that plus progest from nandro.

anthony roberts is an idiot
clomid sucks- replace the clomid with 50mg proviron
your hcg should be e3d weeks 10-13ish, 500iu

go for the var bro youll love it, and i love the test 19 nor dht combo

[SNUKA]

i read that npp has a 5 days active half life so some people inject it every 3 days but i was going to do it eod with the sustanon. i dont see the need to go ED with it. if i could run only prop i would but the price of that would have killed my wallet so i went with the sustanon i didnt think it would be a problem. I already have the prop,npp and sustanon on hand. i will use arimidex but if i have problems i would switch to letro or caber. i dont think i am ready for tren to tell you the truth i dont want the hairloss, acne, sweating and insomnia i might run that in my cutter following this bulker. Anthony roberts pct doesnt have clomid in it. i was favoring the var over the primo anyways thanks for your reply

one8nine what were your results with the var that you say you love. i am always looking for real life input.

[Emilio_Rebenga]

i would personally go with the var over primo as well...looks good to me bro...you will be running 1,000mg of sust a week for the 1st week...thats insane...but a good insane

whats your cycle experience..i see youve been around the boards for a good while...and you put together a pretty bad ass cycle

[NATE0406]

cycle looks good. i would prolly just run var and leave the primo out. sust/npp/var will be great for a lean bulker. the only thing that i would change is i would run the npp up to week 10.

[one8nine]

i read that npp has a 5 days active half life so some people inject it every 3 days but i was going to do it eod with the sustanon. i dont see the need to go ED with it. if i could run only prop i would but the price of that would have killed my wallet so i went with the sustanon i didnt think it would be a problem. I already have the prop,npp and sustanon on hand. i will use arimidex but if i have problems i would switch to letro or caber. i dont think i am ready for tren to tell you the truth i dont want the hairloss, acne, sweating and insomnia i might run that in my cutter following this bulker. Anthony roberts pct doesnt have clomid in it. i was favoring the var over the primo anyways thanks for your reply

one8nine what were your results with the var that you say you love. i am always looking for real life input.

i was on 70mg ed... my strength gains were insane, hardness, vascularity, endurance

as for the physical level, i was on prop/masteron/tren a for 3 weeks or so, no one said anything really to me. then i threw in var and by the third day everyone, i mean litterally every single person i worked with said something along the lines of "holy hell you looked juiced out of your mind are you on steroids"

[SNUKA]

you guys have convinced me to go the var im pumped just thinking about it thanks for all of your inputs